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> Russia supposedly stopped the offensive yesterday for negotiations and it's now back on. An important caveat is that this is according to Russia. Ukraine's

by aix1 5y ago

> Russia supposedly stopped the offensive yesterday for negotiations and it's now back on. An important caveat is that this is according to Russia. Ukraine's version is quite different (it was Russia's attempt to lure Ukraine's top officials to Minsk, which is the only place where Russia is prepared to conduct the talks). In any event, it seems pretty clear that there was no actual ceasefire yesterday or today.

mardifoufs 5y ago
Agreed 100% that this is absolutely just from russian and like very pro russian sources. The only reason why I give it any credit is that it fits with the reality on the ground. If russia was pushing and got actually stalled, I'd have expected to see a lot more air raids and shelling. Yesterday was weirdly calm, even when it comes to airstrikes, bombings etc. Not exactly the signs of a desperate push
- aix1 5y ago
  My interpretation is they're pushing and (sadly) making progress, though much slower than they'd like. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russia-ukraine-warning-update-russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-25-2022 https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russia-ukraine... Judging by the many videos of interrogations of Russian POWs, many of them are just kids who barely know where they are, are unmotivated and poorly equipped. Hardly a professional and well-equipped army. There are also indications of logistical challenges (videos of Russian military vehicles running out of fuel, that sort of thing).
  - justsomehnguy 5y ago
    The main problem (?) here is why Russian forces totally forgot how to move in a convoy. They constantly lose their mates, move in a line like they are on a parade, move without deployed AA. This is beyond "unmotivated and poorly equipped", this is Africa/Middle East levels of incompetency. There is something very, very fishy going there.
  - extrapickles 5y ago
    Running out of fuel is pretty common in military vehicles as the fuel gauges are at best reliable to half a tank. Drivers are supposed to track how far they have driven, but if its driven by multiple people and someone forgets to log distance or the vehicle is forced to idle for a long time the distance can be off. Also a broken fuel gauge will not mark the vehicle as a casualty. Its not critical equipment as your supposed to be tracking fuel usage as a driver.
- alexryndin 5y ago
  is the adviser to the President of Ukraine seems to be very pro russian to you? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30478794 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30478794
  - aix1 5y ago
    Again, the source that your other comment cites is a Kremlin propaganda outlet. There's little reason to trust it to accurately represent Ukraine government's position on anything related to this war. https://www.stopfake.org/en/strana-ua-or-strana-ru-how-a-sanctioned-site-disseminates-banned-kremlin-messages-in-ukraine/ https://www.stopfake.org/en/strana-ua-or-strana-ru-how-a-san...
  - drran 5y ago
    Search your «facts» in this little collection of Russian fakes with 13000+ items: https://euvsdisinfo.eu/disinformation-cases/ https://euvsdisinfo.eu/disinformation-cases/
alexryndin 5y ago
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- drran 5y ago
  «Strana» (страна, country) is a Russian word. The Ukrainian word is «kraina» (країна).
- aix1 5y ago
  > an article on the evidently Ukrainian site This "evidently Ukrainian site" is a Kremlin propaganda outlet: https://www.stopfake.org/en/strana-ua-or-strana-ru-how-a-sanctioned-site-disseminates-banned-kremlin-messages-in-ukraine/ https://www.stopfake.org/en/strana-ua-or-strana-ru-how-a-san...
- pell 5y ago
  Strana is a pro-Russian website.
alexryndin 5y ago
Sorry, I'm a noob in HN interface and didn't find how to answer your original comments -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30478874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30478874 > This "evidently Ukrainian site" is a Kremlin propaganda outlet I'm not going reasoning here about how propagandistic is stopfake itself, because, as I already said, if you only wanted, you could easily find some information about this s*ithole for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t05R_cPVjtU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t05R_cPVjtU but I ask you: did you find any confirmation or refutation of my words? is the current advisor of the president of Ukraine any pro russian?

by aix1 5y ago

mardifoufs 5y ago

Agreed 100% that this is absolutely just from russian and like very pro russian sources. The only reason why I give it any credit is that it fits with the reality on the ground. If russia was pushing and got actually stalled, I'd have expected to see a lot more air raids and shelling. Yesterday was weirdly calm, even when it comes to airstrikes, bombings etc. Not exactly the signs of a desperate push

aix1 5y ago
My interpretation is they're pushing and (sadly) making progress, though much slower than they'd like. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russia-ukraine-warning-update-russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-25-2022 https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russia-ukraine... Judging by the many videos of interrogations of Russian POWs, many of them are just kids who barely know where they are, are unmotivated and poorly equipped. Hardly a professional and well-equipped army. There are also indications of logistical challenges (videos of Russian military vehicles running out of fuel, that sort of thing).
- justsomehnguy 5y ago
  The main problem (?) here is why Russian forces totally forgot how to move in a convoy. They constantly lose their mates, move in a line like they are on a parade, move without deployed AA. This is beyond "unmotivated and poorly equipped", this is Africa/Middle East levels of incompetency. There is something very, very fishy going there.
- extrapickles 5y ago
  Running out of fuel is pretty common in military vehicles as the fuel gauges are at best reliable to half a tank. Drivers are supposed to track how far they have driven, but if its driven by multiple people and someone forgets to log distance or the vehicle is forced to idle for a long time the distance can be off. Also a broken fuel gauge will not mark the vehicle as a casualty. Its not critical equipment as your supposed to be tracking fuel usage as a driver.
alexryndin 5y ago
is the adviser to the President of Ukraine seems to be very pro russian to you? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30478794 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30478794
- aix1 5y ago
  Again, the source that your other comment cites is a Kremlin propaganda outlet. There's little reason to trust it to accurately represent Ukraine government's position on anything related to this war. https://www.stopfake.org/en/strana-ua-or-strana-ru-how-a-sanctioned-site-disseminates-banned-kremlin-messages-in-ukraine/ https://www.stopfake.org/en/strana-ua-or-strana-ru-how-a-san...
- drran 5y ago
  Search your «facts» in this little collection of Russian fakes with 13000+ items: https://euvsdisinfo.eu/disinformation-cases/ https://euvsdisinfo.eu/disinformation-cases/

alexryndin 5y ago

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drran 5y ago
«Strana» (страна, country) is a Russian word. The Ukrainian word is «kraina» (країна).
aix1 5y ago
> an article on the evidently Ukrainian site This "evidently Ukrainian site" is a Kremlin propaganda outlet: https://www.stopfake.org/en/strana-ua-or-strana-ru-how-a-sanctioned-site-disseminates-banned-kremlin-messages-in-ukraine/ https://www.stopfake.org/en/strana-ua-or-strana-ru-how-a-san...
pell 5y ago
Strana is a pro-Russian website.

alexryndin 5y ago

Sorry, I'm a noob in HN interface and didn't find how to answer your original comments -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30478874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30478874 > This "evidently Ukrainian site" is a Kremlin propaganda outlet I'm not going reasoning here about how propagandistic is stopfake itself, because, as I already said, if you only wanted, you could easily find some information about this s*ithole for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t05R_cPVjtU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t05R_cPVjtU but I ask you: did you find any confirmation or refutation of my words? is the current advisor of the president of Ukraine any pro russian?