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Wait did you understand the question, what will EU get? EU is not afraid of russians or nukes.

jonathanstrange 5y ago
You don't see how sanctioning an action that in the past used to be reason for war and likely preventing nuclear war in the future is something positive? Geopolitics is not your strength, is it? Well, to make it simple for you, EU gets a weak Russian military in the future, which is very desirable. Edit: Oh, I see. I've replied to another 4 day old account. What a coincidence!
- Friday_ 5y ago
  As i said EU is not worried about Russians. What else?
  - jonathanstrange 5y ago
    The EU is not worried about Russia? From where on earth did you get this bizarre and obviously false view? Every Eastern EU country is extremely worried about Russia right now and NATO has sent reinforcements to them.
    - Friday_ 5y ago
      Russia has no power for full invasion of Ukrain let alone EU, so your view is false.
      - jonathanstrange 5y ago
        Whether you're trolling or not, you also genuinely don't understand the current situation. So I'll explain it in more detail to you. Putin and other key members of the Russian government have just proven to be unreliable persons who cannot be trusted and negotiated with. This makes future ways to deal with Russia extremely difficult. It is also unrealistic to expect that this is going to get better, the older Putin gets. On the contrary, if he stays in power indefinitely we can expect his revisionary pseudo-historic views and his disrespect for national sovereignty to increase. His successor might even be worse, given the poisoned political climate in Russia today. However, Russia is a major nuclear power. There is a realistic worry within the EU and NATO that Russia would get emboldened by past lackluster responses and risk a calculation that attacking a smaller NATO country might not invariably activate nuclear defense plans. All of this taken together makes imposing heavy sanctions on Russia essentially inevitable. They are the only civilized response available, and not doing anything could have fatal consequences far beyond the EU. Governments across the world rightly realized now - unfortunately, too late - that the comparatively weak response to the 2014 annexation of Crimea has emboldened Putin to order a full-scale invasion of Ukraine. They will not repeat this mistake. Edit: Looks like a consensus has been reached and Russia is about to get excluded from SWIFT.

You don't see how sanctioning an action that in the past used to be reason for war and likely preventing nuclear war in the future is something positive? Geopolitics is not your strength, is it? Well, to make it simple for you, EU gets a weak Russian military in the future, which is very desirable. Edit: Oh, I see. I've replied to another 4 day old account. What a coincidence!

Friday_ 5y ago
As i said EU is not worried about Russians. What else?
- jonathanstrange 5y ago
  The EU is not worried about Russia? From where on earth did you get this bizarre and obviously false view? Every Eastern EU country is extremely worried about Russia right now and NATO has sent reinforcements to them.
  - Friday_ 5y ago
    Russia has no power for full invasion of Ukrain let alone EU, so your view is false.
    - jonathanstrange 5y ago
      Whether you're trolling or not, you also genuinely don't understand the current situation. So I'll explain it in more detail to you. Putin and other key members of the Russian government have just proven to be unreliable persons who cannot be trusted and negotiated with. This makes future ways to deal with Russia extremely difficult. It is also unrealistic to expect that this is going to get better, the older Putin gets. On the contrary, if he stays in power indefinitely we can expect his revisionary pseudo-historic views and his disrespect for national sovereignty to increase. His successor might even be worse, given the poisoned political climate in Russia today. However, Russia is a major nuclear power. There is a realistic worry within the EU and NATO that Russia would get emboldened by past lackluster responses and risk a calculation that attacking a smaller NATO country might not invariably activate nuclear defense plans. All of this taken together makes imposing heavy sanctions on Russia essentially inevitable. They are the only civilized response available, and not doing anything could have fatal consequences far beyond the EU. Governments across the world rightly realized now - unfortunately, too late - that the comparatively weak response to the 2014 annexation of Crimea has emboldened Putin to order a full-scale invasion of Ukraine. They will not repeat this mistake. Edit: Looks like a consensus has been reached and Russia is about to get excluded from SWIFT.