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My perception, as someone with a fair amount of southern, conservative friends, is that the American progressive left absolutely did this to themselves. I disti

My perception, as someone with a fair amount of southern, conservative friends, is that the American progressive left absolutely did this to themselves. I distinctly remember many of my progressive friends urging others to never take the “Trump Vaccine”. Wildly, 6 months later when it was actually available, it became the Fauci vaccine and those same people said anyone who wasn’t getting it was a racist or a nazi. If you were vaccine hesitant going into it, this profound and entirely political change of heart from across the aisle probably just solidified your sneaking suspicion that there was something “they” weren’t telling you.

giraffe_lady 5y ago
- honkdaddy 5y ago
  I'm not sure who you think you're talking about, giraffe_lady. I'm not a "personality responsibility fetishist" whatever that might be. That's the type of language that does well on reddit, but people here don't love those kind of flamebaity remarks. I'm a liberal centrist Canadian who has the privilege to observe American politics from afar without getting too invested. I just call it as I see it.
  - giraffe_lady 5y ago
    No, you are advancing a right wing position while trying to distance yourself from the political alignment that represents and got mad I called you on it. The reasons for the quick and pervasive spread of anti-vax positions on the right are complex and nuanced but "it's just a reasonable response to things progressive say" is so insufficient an explanation it's comical. Like it doesn't hold up to even a couple seconds of scrutiny, so there must be some other reason you're presenting it?
shankr 5y ago
> My perception, as someone with a fair amount of southern, conservative friends, is that the American progressive left absolutely did this to themselves. I mean reading the facebook posts of your conservative friends will definitely affirm that fact. Even conservatives in this video admitted "algorithm" influenced their decision making. So many data and evidence in the video talks about how the conservatives were highly skeptical of hypothetical vaccine. This was also due to the kind of media they consume(d). After ignoring all that evidence, you direct all the blame on progressive left. Don't you see the pattern?
hotpotamus 5y ago
Anytime I see someone blaming progressives for the actions of conservatives, I have to ask, what have conservatives done that justifies the actions of progressives?

giraffe_lady 5y ago

honkdaddy 5y ago
I'm not sure who you think you're talking about, giraffe_lady. I'm not a "personality responsibility fetishist" whatever that might be. That's the type of language that does well on reddit, but people here don't love those kind of flamebaity remarks. I'm a liberal centrist Canadian who has the privilege to observe American politics from afar without getting too invested. I just call it as I see it.
- giraffe_lady 5y ago
  No, you are advancing a right wing position while trying to distance yourself from the political alignment that represents and got mad I called you on it. The reasons for the quick and pervasive spread of anti-vax positions on the right are complex and nuanced but "it's just a reasonable response to things progressive say" is so insufficient an explanation it's comical. Like it doesn't hold up to even a couple seconds of scrutiny, so there must be some other reason you're presenting it?

shankr 5y ago

> My perception, as someone with a fair amount of southern, conservative friends, is that the American progressive left absolutely did this to themselves. I mean reading the facebook posts of your conservative friends will definitely affirm that fact. Even conservatives in this video admitted "algorithm" influenced their decision making. So many data and evidence in the video talks about how the conservatives were highly skeptical of hypothetical vaccine. This was also due to the kind of media they consume(d). After ignoring all that evidence, you direct all the blame on progressive left. Don't you see the pattern?

hotpotamus 5y ago

Anytime I see someone blaming progressives for the actions of conservatives, I have to ask, what have conservatives done that justifies the actions of progressives?