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Twitter is blocked in Russia, can confirm. I wonder how long my VPN and general internet connectivity will remain...

by Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago

mmastrac 5y ago
Stay safe. Download some censorship-free mesh networking communication apps to organize protests.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago
  > Download some censorship-free mesh networking communication apps to organize protests Russia is sadly beyond resolution through protest. Join a resistance or get out, unfortunately. It won’t be long before the second becomes impossible.
  - hutzlibu 5y ago
    Do you have first hand information from inside russia? As far as I know, Putin is absolutely scared of a big scale protest. Which is why he reacted so harsh against the anti war protests so far. And the russian system is still based on elections(with observers). Where fraud might happen, but if he loses popular support(which he still has), he will eventually loose the elections.
    - Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
      That actually make me chuckle. I do actually have first-hand information from inside Russia. Election system is completely controlled by the government. Opposition members can't even register as a candidate, they are just rejected. And if that doesn't help, the well oiled machine of election fraud ensures that the 'right' candidate wins. As for 'big scale protest', Putin has enormous internal army consisting of riot police, RosGuardia, and so-called titushkis, a class of combatants with criminal backgrounds. And he has tanks, armoured vehicles and firearms, which he wouldn't hesitate to use against protesters. Good luck protesting against all of that.
      - hutzlibu 5y ago
        "the well oiled machine of election fraud ensures that the 'right' candidate wins." That machine only works with popular support (as it relys on individuals to manipulate counts etc.). Which Putin has, as many russians are crying for the loss of their empire and would like Putin to restore the former glory. If they realize, that the new glory will be more misery, Putin will be gone. That might happen very fast, if the war goes wrong for him.
        Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
        Ok smart guy, where was your wisdom the last 10 years while I and my friends were opposing Putin and his election fraud machine? But seriously, you don't have even a remote idea how this works. Putin's party popularity is around 25-30% now, but it has the majority of seats in parliament. But at the same time, he controls 100% of seats in the parliament. How? Because every other party permitted to take part in elections is controlled by him too! The only way you can 'protest' him in elections is by concentrating opposition voters to vote against his main party, but even his main candidate fails, the other one is made from the same kind of shit. And as for 'independent observers', ... It's hard even to begin describing how such observer can be simply severely beaten by several gopniks at the government's request, or thrown away from the prescint by the police for 'disturbing order' (by yelling trying to stop blatant electon fraud)
        hutzlibu 5y ago
        I am not debating, that there is election fraud, nor that Putin increasingly takes the role of a untouchable tsar. "The only way you can 'protest' him in elections is by concentrating opposition voters to vote against his main party" But I am aware of this tactic and know that in some areas this brought some embarassement for the established candidate and at least made fraud obvious. And polls are probably hard to do accurate in this climate, but wikipedia cites some other numbers for Putins popularity in general. Allmost never under 50% https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_image_of_Vladimir_Putin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_image_of_Vladimir_Put... When this changes, so will the political landscape in russia.
  - mcfedr 5y ago
    What other hope is there for Russia? If this isn't what forces people out to try and remove Putin what will?
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  Those 2 statements are in contradiction to each other.
  - mmastrac 5y ago
    They are wishes, not facts.
    - hutzlibu 5y ago
      Yes, but you wish for safety and also recommend downloading some unspecified mesh network software to organize protest. That is extremely dangerous, if you don't know what you are doing. And I know a bit about IT security and I have no idea, what software I can recommend to safely organize a protest in russia.
dunkelheit 5y ago
Works for me...
- yurish 5y ago
  Yeah, I do not use Twitter personally so just checked some random twitter links and they worked.
jonnycomputer 5y ago
Is nitter.net blocked too?
- yurish 5y ago
  It is not blocked either
  - jonnycomputer 5y ago
    How about now?
    - yurish 5y ago
      Yes, now it is blocked.

Twitter is blocked in Russia, can confirm. I wonder how long my VPN and general internet connectivity will remain...

mmastrac 5y ago

Stay safe. Download some censorship-free mesh networking communication apps to organize protests.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> Download some censorship-free mesh networking communication apps to organize protests Russia is sadly beyond resolution through protest. Join a resistance or get out, unfortunately. It won’t be long before the second becomes impossible.
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  Do you have first hand information from inside russia? As far as I know, Putin is absolutely scared of a big scale protest. Which is why he reacted so harsh against the anti war protests so far. And the russian system is still based on elections(with observers). Where fraud might happen, but if he loses popular support(which he still has), he will eventually loose the elections.
  - Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
    That actually make me chuckle. I do actually have first-hand information from inside Russia. Election system is completely controlled by the government. Opposition members can't even register as a candidate, they are just rejected. And if that doesn't help, the well oiled machine of election fraud ensures that the 'right' candidate wins. As for 'big scale protest', Putin has enormous internal army consisting of riot police, RosGuardia, and so-called titushkis, a class of combatants with criminal backgrounds. And he has tanks, armoured vehicles and firearms, which he wouldn't hesitate to use against protesters. Good luck protesting against all of that.
    - hutzlibu 5y ago
      "the well oiled machine of election fraud ensures that the 'right' candidate wins." That machine only works with popular support (as it relys on individuals to manipulate counts etc.). Which Putin has, as many russians are crying for the loss of their empire and would like Putin to restore the former glory. If they realize, that the new glory will be more misery, Putin will be gone. That might happen very fast, if the war goes wrong for him.
      - Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
        Ok smart guy, where was your wisdom the last 10 years while I and my friends were opposing Putin and his election fraud machine? But seriously, you don't have even a remote idea how this works. Putin's party popularity is around 25-30% now, but it has the majority of seats in parliament. But at the same time, he controls 100% of seats in the parliament. How? Because every other party permitted to take part in elections is controlled by him too! The only way you can 'protest' him in elections is by concentrating opposition voters to vote against his main party, but even his main candidate fails, the other one is made from the same kind of shit. And as for 'independent observers', ... It's hard even to begin describing how such observer can be simply severely beaten by several gopniks at the government's request, or thrown away from the prescint by the police for 'disturbing order' (by yelling trying to stop blatant electon fraud)
        hutzlibu 5y ago
        I am not debating, that there is election fraud, nor that Putin increasingly takes the role of a untouchable tsar. "The only way you can 'protest' him in elections is by concentrating opposition voters to vote against his main party" But I am aware of this tactic and know that in some areas this brought some embarassement for the established candidate and at least made fraud obvious. And polls are probably hard to do accurate in this climate, but wikipedia cites some other numbers for Putins popularity in general. Allmost never under 50% https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_image_of_Vladimir_Putin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_image_of_Vladimir_Put... When this changes, so will the political landscape in russia.
- mcfedr 5y ago
  What other hope is there for Russia? If this isn't what forces people out to try and remove Putin what will?
hutzlibu 5y ago
Those 2 statements are in contradiction to each other.
- mmastrac 5y ago
  They are wishes, not facts.
  - hutzlibu 5y ago
    Yes, but you wish for safety and also recommend downloading some unspecified mesh network software to organize protest. That is extremely dangerous, if you don't know what you are doing. And I know a bit about IT security and I have no idea, what software I can recommend to safely organize a protest in russia.

dunkelheit 5y ago

Works for me...

yurish 5y ago
Yeah, I do not use Twitter personally so just checked some random twitter links and they worked.

jonnycomputer 5y ago

Is nitter.net blocked too?

yurish 5y ago
It is not blocked either
- jonnycomputer 5y ago
  How about now?
  - yurish 5y ago
    Yes, now it is blocked.