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Meanwhile the UK has done the opposite and suspended visas[0] for Ukrainians stuck in the UK. What the hell... [0] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-n

Meanwhile the UK has done the opposite and suspended visas[0] for Ukrainians stuck in the UK. What the hell... [0] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ukraine-war-refugees-uk-visas-b2022567.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ukraine-war-... [Edit: see my response further down, this looks to have been addressed by a change in the Home Office's wording]

hhmc 5y ago
I haven't dug especially deep on this, but I thought what was actually happening here is that visas are no longer being processed in kyiv or further east (due to consulate staff have been evacuated). However they are still being processed in e.g lviv (or in, say, poland).
- chris_overseas 5y ago
  I think you're right. Looking at the Home Office website it appears that they have clarified the wording compared to what was quoted in the Independent article. The quoted text in the article was: > "Ukrainian nationals in Ukraine (who aren’t immediate family members of British nationals normally living in Ukraine, or where the British national is living in the UK), are currently unable to make visa applications to visit, work, study or join family in the UK.” The Home Office site[0] now says: > "Ukrainian nationals in Ukraine (who aren’t immediate family members of British nationals normally living in Ukraine, or where the British national is living in the UK), are currently unable to make visa applications to visit, work, study or join family in the UK through a VAC in Ukraine. If you are able to safely travel, you can apply through a VAC in one of the nearby countries." Which of course is in line with the reality of the consulate being closed in Kyiv. [0] https://www.gov.uk/guidance/support-for-family-members-of-british-nationals-in-ukraine-and-ukrainian-nationals-in-ukraine-and-the-uk https://www.gov.uk/guidance/support-for-family-members-of-br...
mhh__ 5y ago
I'm not familiar with this article yet but the British home office's political purpose to Tory governments is to antagonize immigrants and similar acts to appease hardline (racist, I won't mince my words) elements of British society. Priti Patel is taking this particularly seriously, so as a result of her own incompetence and fascistic tendencies, we might do something really quite stupid. There's geopolitics to play here, so I expect the UK will take on Ukrainians regardless of domestic pandering (Eastern European migration is not seen positively by many British people).
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  >Eastern European migration is not seen positively by many British people Which is incredibly ironic. I love how Jimmy Carr put it: "These damn Romanians and Bulgarians, coming over here, stealing the jobs of our Poles." LOL Or that British TV show 'Benefits Street' or something like that, where the only house on the street who's inhabitants were not on welfare and actually had jobs, was full of Romanians.
  - mhh__ 5y ago
    Exactly. We have a rotten political system (and political class), but many cannot fathom their surrounding and thus we end up blaming immigrants and the poor as per usual.

hhmc 5y ago

I haven't dug especially deep on this, but I thought what was actually happening here is that visas are no longer being processed in kyiv or further east (due to consulate staff have been evacuated). However they are still being processed in e.g lviv (or in, say, poland).

chris_overseas 5y ago
I think you're right. Looking at the Home Office website it appears that they have clarified the wording compared to what was quoted in the Independent article. The quoted text in the article was: > "Ukrainian nationals in Ukraine (who aren’t immediate family members of British nationals normally living in Ukraine, or where the British national is living in the UK), are currently unable to make visa applications to visit, work, study or join family in the UK.” The Home Office site[0] now says: > "Ukrainian nationals in Ukraine (who aren’t immediate family members of British nationals normally living in Ukraine, or where the British national is living in the UK), are currently unable to make visa applications to visit, work, study or join family in the UK through a VAC in Ukraine. If you are able to safely travel, you can apply through a VAC in one of the nearby countries." Which of course is in line with the reality of the consulate being closed in Kyiv. [0] https://www.gov.uk/guidance/support-for-family-members-of-british-nationals-in-ukraine-and-ukrainian-nationals-in-ukraine-and-the-uk https://www.gov.uk/guidance/support-for-family-members-of-br...

mhh__ 5y ago

I'm not familiar with this article yet but the British home office's political purpose to Tory governments is to antagonize immigrants and similar acts to appease hardline (racist, I won't mince my words) elements of British society. Priti Patel is taking this particularly seriously, so as a result of her own incompetence and fascistic tendencies, we might do something really quite stupid. There's geopolitics to play here, so I expect the UK will take on Ukrainians regardless of domestic pandering (Eastern European migration is not seen positively by many British people).

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
>Eastern European migration is not seen positively by many British people Which is incredibly ironic. I love how Jimmy Carr put it: "These damn Romanians and Bulgarians, coming over here, stealing the jobs of our Poles." LOL Or that British TV show 'Benefits Street' or something like that, where the only house on the street who's inhabitants were not on welfare and actually had jobs, was full of Romanians.
- mhh__ 5y ago
  Exactly. We have a rotten political system (and political class), but many cannot fathom their surrounding and thus we end up blaming immigrants and the poor as per usual.