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And Portugal should cancel Abramovich citizenship, who is one of the closest to Putin oligarchs. My guess is at the time when he applied for citizenship he knew

And Portugal should cancel Abramovich citizenship, who is one of the closest to Putin oligarchs. My guess is at the time when he applied for citizenship he knew about what was going to happen, at least in general. Now as a citizen of EU member state he is exempt from yesterday's EU sanctions and probably any future sanctions. I'm afraid EU will not be able to impose personalized sections on him while he has this citizenship.

belter 5y ago
Already being discussed: https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2022-02-24/golden-visas-granted-to-russians-in-portugal-attacked/65468 https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2022-02-24/golden-visas... The UK government has in that domain a lot of work to do.
- Tsiklon 5y ago
  The party which forms the current UK government has received significant investment from wealthy Russian individuals. I do not trust them to make credible changes in this regard. Instead I expect them to punish regular Russian citizens who wish to visit or do business in the UK, and who cannot avail of the privilege afforded to those with significant wealth.
reducesuffering 5y ago
It is quite interesting that two people very close to Putin, Press Secretary Peskov and Abramovich, both have daughters that went on social media decrying the war. The way Sergei speaks to the public here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9A-u8EoWcI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9A-u8EoWcI in front of Putin is pretty damning too. Already a Duma member has denounced the war. It's looking more and more like Putin has basically gone rogue mad and even his inner circle is showing immense cracks of support for this insanity. Also in insanely damning excerpt from that conversion with Putin and Sergei: Sergei: "I support the proposal about entry of Donetsk and Luhansk into Russian Federation." Putin: "We are not talking about that. We are not discussing that. We're talking about recognizing their independence or not. Yes or no?" Sergei: "Yes. I support the proposal to recognize their independence." Also both Donetsk and Luhansk leaders became members of Putin's United Russia political party in 2021. Just in case anyone had any doubts about Russian's intentions for independent states.
djbebs 5y ago
Absolutely not. Citizenship isn't a piece of candy to give out or take away. Under no circumstances can or should it be removed. Even being able to give it up of ones own initiative is a morally repugnant, if necessary, compromise.

belter 5y ago

Already being discussed: https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2022-02-24/golden-visas-granted-to-russians-in-portugal-attacked/65468 https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2022-02-24/golden-visas... The UK government has in that domain a lot of work to do.

Tsiklon 5y ago
The party which forms the current UK government has received significant investment from wealthy Russian individuals. I do not trust them to make credible changes in this regard. Instead I expect them to punish regular Russian citizens who wish to visit or do business in the UK, and who cannot avail of the privilege afforded to those with significant wealth.

reducesuffering 5y ago

It is quite interesting that two people very close to Putin, Press Secretary Peskov and Abramovich, both have daughters that went on social media decrying the war. The way Sergei speaks to the public here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9A-u8EoWcI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9A-u8EoWcI in front of Putin is pretty damning too. Already a Duma member has denounced the war. It's looking more and more like Putin has basically gone rogue mad and even his inner circle is showing immense cracks of support for this insanity. Also in insanely damning excerpt from that conversion with Putin and Sergei: Sergei: "I support the proposal about entry of Donetsk and Luhansk into Russian Federation." Putin: "We are not talking about that. We are not discussing that. We're talking about recognizing their independence or not. Yes or no?" Sergei: "Yes. I support the proposal to recognize their independence." Also both Donetsk and Luhansk leaders became members of Putin's United Russia political party in 2021. Just in case anyone had any doubts about Russian's intentions for independent states.

djbebs 5y ago

Absolutely not. Citizenship isn't a piece of candy to give out or take away. Under no circumstances can or should it be removed. Even being able to give it up of ones own initiative is a morally repugnant, if necessary, compromise.