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Where I live PwC is mostly a bodyshop that employs a disproportionate amount of fresh graduates and junior engineers. Their business model is to hire those peo

by mkl95 5y ago

Where I live PwC is mostly a bodyshop that employs a disproportionate amount of fresh graduates and junior engineers. Their business model is to hire those people and claim they are way more experienced than they are. Afterward, they lease them to some client for 6-12 months. I find their business model incredibly annoying, but the thing that actually worries me is that many of those clients are public agencies, regional governments, etc. Virtually all citizens are forced to consume the crap built by PwC and their competitors.

hackernewds 5y ago
the further abhorrent practice is also of hiring immigrants who have the need for h1bs straight out of college, giving them disproportionately worse #hours, and having stringent artificial processes and timelines that delays their visa processing to the green card stage - all of which is still guaranteed employee retention due to the need of the immigrant employee per US laws to stay unemployed in the US for no longer than 60 days, else face deportation. it's modern day exploitation, if not servitude.
isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
Most "consulting companies" are like that too. They bring in the great team to win you over, and then when they secured the contract, they replace them with the cheap team.
- LegitShady 5y ago
  Why isn't approval of team changes in your contract, then? This is standard language in our consulting contracts. You want to change the team? Send the resume, let us meet the proposed staff and run the bullshit detector over them, and then maybe negotiate changes in cost if they've downgraded or reject the change if its unnacceptable. If they insist, they're in breach and we go after their performance bond and let the insurer go after the dishonest consultant.
HNHatesUsers 5y ago
That's traditional at the Big 6 (now 4, or whatever it is now). Andersen Consulting (now Accenture) bought an entire former college campus and prides itself on churning new hires who majored in almost anything (many liberal-arts majors like English or what have you) through a six-week programming course there, and then putting them on jobs. I went through it. I walked past one such hire on the job afterward, and noticed that the code on her screen made a line from the upper left to the lower right corner. Closer inspection revealed that she had written 32 nested statements to iterate through the 32 characters in a part number (used by our clients for military equipment). After leaving 5 years later, I went to PWC (then just Price Waterhouse). They did not have their shit together nearly as well as Andersen, let me tell you. So... that's kinda scary.

by mkl95 5y ago

hackernewds 5y ago

the further abhorrent practice is also of hiring immigrants who have the need for h1bs straight out of college, giving them disproportionately worse #hours, and having stringent artificial processes and timelines that delays their visa processing to the green card stage - all of which is still guaranteed employee retention due to the need of the immigrant employee per US laws to stay unemployed in the US for no longer than 60 days, else face deportation. it's modern day exploitation, if not servitude.

isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago

Most "consulting companies" are like that too. They bring in the great team to win you over, and then when they secured the contract, they replace them with the cheap team.

LegitShady 5y ago
Why isn't approval of team changes in your contract, then? This is standard language in our consulting contracts. You want to change the team? Send the resume, let us meet the proposed staff and run the bullshit detector over them, and then maybe negotiate changes in cost if they've downgraded or reject the change if its unnacceptable. If they insist, they're in breach and we go after their performance bond and let the insurer go after the dishonest consultant.

HNHatesUsers 5y ago

That's traditional at the Big 6 (now 4, or whatever it is now). Andersen Consulting (now Accenture) bought an entire former college campus and prides itself on churning new hires who majored in almost anything (many liberal-arts majors like English or what have you) through a six-week programming course there, and then putting them on jobs. I went through it. I walked past one such hire on the job afterward, and noticed that the code on her screen made a line from the upper left to the lower right corner. Closer inspection revealed that she had written 32 nested statements to iterate through the 32 characters in a part number (used by our clients for military equipment). After leaving 5 years later, I went to PWC (then just Price Waterhouse). They did not have their shit together nearly as well as Andersen, let me tell you. So... that's kinda scary.