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Whatabout: I see your point, and as stated I'm not in favor of the current situation. My point is I can see similarities to wars started by the US/west - and I

Whatabout: I see your point, and as stated I'm not in favor of the current situation. My point is I can see similarities to wars started by the US/west - and I believe lots of outrage come from people who supported those efforts. Either I'm missing something (thus the implied question "What's the significant difference?") or I guess it's hypocrisy? (1) according to Russia (Russian perspective) I'm pretty sure the US (or for that matter Ukraine) is harboring terrorists as well. Now, I'm not fully knowledgeable about all the details in Afghanistan, and sure, the Talibans doesn't seem to be optimal (but neither does the Ukrainian leadership/political situation - it's one of the most corrupt country in Europe?), but aren't there a lot of similarities? What are the significant differences that justified killing (directly or indirectly) many tens of thousands and messing up a country for 20 years, that still makes it valid to have outrage for the current situation? I'm genuinely curious! (2) I think the other comment put it best. Bush and co lied about the situation (there being WMDs). And is it OK now if Putin regrets his invasion 2028? PS You do have a good point about there probably being more outrage if there was an intervention!

jopsen 5y ago
> What are the significant differences that justified killing (directly or indirectly) many tens of thousands and messing up a country for 20 years, that still makes it valid to have outrage for the current situation? I'm genuinely curious! We are more enlightened than we were 20 years ago. Just to mention one. (Also lots of people weren't in favor of Iraq of Afghanistan) More importantly even if the US did overreact or oversell the justification for it's wars. The US didn't act alone, nor were they anywhere near as dishonest as Russia have been. It appears to me that Russia purposefully made diplomatic solutions impossible. > (2) I think the other comment put it best. Bush and co lied about the situation (there being WMDs). And is it OK now if Putin regrets his invasion 2028? He had 8 years to regret the invasion he made in 2014, right? But no -- it's not okay now.. but if in 8 years Putin comes out says it was wrong, I'll give him more credibility afterwards.

jopsen 5y ago

> What are the significant differences that justified killing (directly or indirectly) many tens of thousands and messing up a country for 20 years, that still makes it valid to have outrage for the current situation? I'm genuinely curious! We are more enlightened than we were 20 years ago. Just to mention one. (Also lots of people weren't in favor of Iraq of Afghanistan) More importantly even if the US did overreact or oversell the justification for it's wars. The US didn't act alone, nor were they anywhere near as dishonest as Russia have been. It appears to me that Russia purposefully made diplomatic solutions impossible. > (2) I think the other comment put it best. Bush and co lied about the situation (there being WMDs). And is it OK now if Putin regrets his invasion 2028? He had 8 years to regret the invasion he made in 2014, right? But no -- it's not okay now.. but if in 8 years Putin comes out says it was wrong, I'll give him more credibility afterwards.