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It's crazy that someone sat on the footage for 21 years and it just got made public now. Makes you wonder what else other footage or details are out there that

It's crazy that someone sat on the footage for 21 years and it just got made public now. Makes you wonder what else other footage or details are out there that has yet to be shared online.

mbustamanter 5y ago
It's hard to believe, but new media of the September 11 attacks (and the towers before) comes out all the time. This includes rare pictures and videos. There are YouTube channels [0] specifically dedicated to finding music played on the plaza (muzak), partly inspired by Jack Taliercio's video [1], where you can hear songs being played while the attacks went down. Other channels have more mainstream videos (FOIA, NIST) but all of them were digitally enhanced [2], [3]. Other channels have pictures found online [4], but mainly the pictures can be found in recent subreddits [5], [6] where they also collect pictures of the inside of the towers, the other buildings of the complex and even the bridges between them. There is also a Flight 11 impact video with some recordings that were never quite known [7], although the first everyone has already seen. Caveat: some of the channel's owners seem to be conspiratorial, but the majority of the videos are unedited. You'll be surprised how specific some of the footage is. [0] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFlhobtX9IHvXM0h1LcqaA/featured https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFlhobtX9IHvXM0h1LcqaA/fea... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdfqEYITTm8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdfqEYITTm8 [2] https://www.youtube.com/c/WTCFOIAVideos https://www.youtube.com/c/WTCFOIAVideos [3] https://www.youtube.com/c/MrKoenig1985/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/MrKoenig1985/videos [4] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEpgWCL0UfhN1gwxAWpAo5A/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEpgWCL0UfhN1gwxAWpAo5A/vid... [5] https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinTowersInPhotos/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinTowersInPhotos/ [6] https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldTradeCenter/ https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldTradeCenter/ [7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtWcQRCPkKk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtWcQRCPkKk
- Invictus0 5y ago
  After all these years, I've still never seen a video of the Pentagon impact. Has anything come out for that?
  - mbustamanter 5y ago
    I personally don't know if there ever was a video of the impact other than that of the security camera [0]. I think of two reasons: the Pentagon is not NY, which is a highly populated area in a developed country, it's natural that so many people were filming. Even more so, the Twin Towers were cultural icons. I don't know if many people were around the Pentagon, but I have read about witnesses of the crash in DC. The other reason would be that they don't want to release it and it's understandable. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon#11_September_2001_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon#11_September_2001...
  - TacticalCoder 5y ago
    Some 3 letters agency (FBI?) immediately raided all the nearby places that could have had cams and seized everything. I'm pretty sure that it's documented: IIRC footage from a petrol station nearby was confiscated. I was there (at the time, in front of my TV I mean) and I clearly remember the first witnesses being interviewed by reporters: as soon as a witness would say something not fitting the official narrative, it would never be aired again. For example regarding the pentagon one eye-witness said he saw something like a big missile on which wings had been strapped. I saw that on TV. I clearly remember it. Now I'm not saying it's not a Boeing that hit the Pentagon: what I'm saying is that it's very weird that all these ramblings from these drunkards mistaking, say, a Boeing with a "missile with wings strapped on it" were basically aired once then erased. I'm pretty sure that guy was both drunk and of course because the plane was going fast, the mistake was made in honest faith (you, too, would certainly mistake a Boeing for a missile with wings strapped on it). Same thing with people saying they heard explosions in the WTC: as soon as they'd mention that, they'd be cut off by reporters and these people would never be interviewed again and their account never aired again (FWIW I don't believe in a controlled demolition but I do believe in narrative manipulation). After these oddities of course we all know totally normal things then happened: for example IIRC one the rare flight that was allowed to happen when no plane were flying in the US was a flight evacuating members of the Bin Laden family. And then the wars that followed. Made perfect sense. No fabricated evidence. Guantanamo and the like: all perfectly cromulent. When you take all this, honestly that we don't have any footage of that impact just seems on par for the course.

It's crazy that someone sat on the footage for 21 years and it just got made public now. Makes you wonder what else other footage or details are out there that has yet to be shared online.

mbustamanter 5y ago

It's hard to believe, but new media of the September 11 attacks (and the towers before) comes out all the time. This includes rare pictures and videos. There are YouTube channels [0] specifically dedicated to finding music played on the plaza (muzak), partly inspired by Jack Taliercio's video [1], where you can hear songs being played while the attacks went down. Other channels have more mainstream videos (FOIA, NIST) but all of them were digitally enhanced [2], [3]. Other channels have pictures found online [4], but mainly the pictures can be found in recent subreddits [5], [6] where they also collect pictures of the inside of the towers, the other buildings of the complex and even the bridges between them. There is also a Flight 11 impact video with some recordings that were never quite known [7], although the first everyone has already seen. Caveat: some of the channel's owners seem to be conspiratorial, but the majority of the videos are unedited. You'll be surprised how specific some of the footage is. [0] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFlhobtX9IHvXM0h1LcqaA/featured https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFlhobtX9IHvXM0h1LcqaA/fea... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdfqEYITTm8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdfqEYITTm8 [2] https://www.youtube.com/c/WTCFOIAVideos https://www.youtube.com/c/WTCFOIAVideos [3] https://www.youtube.com/c/MrKoenig1985/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/MrKoenig1985/videos [4] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEpgWCL0UfhN1gwxAWpAo5A/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEpgWCL0UfhN1gwxAWpAo5A/vid... [5] https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinTowersInPhotos/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinTowersInPhotos/ [6] https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldTradeCenter/ https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldTradeCenter/ [7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtWcQRCPkKk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtWcQRCPkKk

Invictus0 5y ago
After all these years, I've still never seen a video of the Pentagon impact. Has anything come out for that?
- mbustamanter 5y ago
  I personally don't know if there ever was a video of the impact other than that of the security camera [0]. I think of two reasons: the Pentagon is not NY, which is a highly populated area in a developed country, it's natural that so many people were filming. Even more so, the Twin Towers were cultural icons. I don't know if many people were around the Pentagon, but I have read about witnesses of the crash in DC. The other reason would be that they don't want to release it and it's understandable. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon#11_September_2001_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon#11_September_2001...
- TacticalCoder 5y ago
  Some 3 letters agency (FBI?) immediately raided all the nearby places that could have had cams and seized everything. I'm pretty sure that it's documented: IIRC footage from a petrol station nearby was confiscated. I was there (at the time, in front of my TV I mean) and I clearly remember the first witnesses being interviewed by reporters: as soon as a witness would say something not fitting the official narrative, it would never be aired again. For example regarding the pentagon one eye-witness said he saw something like a big missile on which wings had been strapped. I saw that on TV. I clearly remember it. Now I'm not saying it's not a Boeing that hit the Pentagon: what I'm saying is that it's very weird that all these ramblings from these drunkards mistaking, say, a Boeing with a "missile with wings strapped on it" were basically aired once then erased. I'm pretty sure that guy was both drunk and of course because the plane was going fast, the mistake was made in honest faith (you, too, would certainly mistake a Boeing for a missile with wings strapped on it). Same thing with people saying they heard explosions in the WTC: as soon as they'd mention that, they'd be cut off by reporters and these people would never be interviewed again and their account never aired again (FWIW I don't believe in a controlled demolition but I do believe in narrative manipulation). After these oddities of course we all know totally normal things then happened: for example IIRC one the rare flight that was allowed to happen when no plane were flying in the US was a flight evacuating members of the Bin Laden family. And then the wars that followed. Made perfect sense. No fabricated evidence. Guantanamo and the like: all perfectly cromulent. When you take all this, honestly that we don't have any footage of that impact just seems on par for the course.