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And I don't suppose HDI and Gini have anything to do with the history of continuous colonialism and occupation by the West that continues to this day, do they?

by azth 5y ago

And I don't suppose HDI and Gini have anything to do with the history of continuous colonialism and occupation by the West that continues to this day, do they? Just look at how the US is stealing $7Billion of Afghanistan's money today under Biden, so don't tell me about some wealth inequality when the West continues to siphon the wealth of countries it occupied in West and South Eastern Asia. > Yes, women are forced to be married to their rapists Maybe in some fringe cases or countries like India which already have a huge problem due to many factors, including a religion that does not seem to prohibit such actions. Now compare to when we had actual enforcement of Shariah and the evil doers were punished, before the West occupied us and forced their "tolerant and liberal" policies under the guise of "human rights", suspending the death penalty for criminals like murderers and those who spread corruption in the land, and it's no wonder these things are happening.

sofixa 5y ago
Of course colonialism and neocolonialism contribute a lot to the explanation behind HDI and Gini results, but the vast disparity between different ex-colonies shows it isn't that simple. Oh. I bid you good day sir ( i highly doubt a woman would speak the bullshit you've said about sexual assault and champion Sharia law), because the mere notion that laws based on a religion, especially one of those that treats half of the people as second class, and forbids conversions/atheism/agnosticism is anything but literally one of the worst possible ways to govern a country, is ludicrous and doesn't deserve engaging. There's nothing good to be said about a religious legal system. You can have tough punishments if the people so want based on actual legal principles, not because an old book people consider sacred said so.
- azth 5y ago
  What did I say about sexual assault? That the rapist should be punished? I assure you that many women would love that. We also have countless Muslim women, who by definition support Shariah (actually, the belief of any Muslim who does not accept Shariah is suspect - by definition, a Muslim supports Shariah [i.e. the Law (of God)]). But if you take your news from far leftist and far rightist sources, I wouldn't be surprised you'd be making such claims. Islam does not treat women as second class, and in fact, has elevated her status and guaranteed her rights. Islam allows freedom of religion and belief. If you took some time to actually read how things were, you wouldn't be saying such things. Even Jewish historians admit that Jews had it best under Islam. It's trivial to disprove your false claims, that honestly show ignorance with all due respect.
  - sofixa 5y ago
    > Islam does not treat women as second class, and in fact, has elevated her status and guaranteed her rights. Islam allows freedom of religion and belief Now i know you're lying. Right to need to ask for permission to go out/drive/get married, or right to dress exactly as required? Or right to be married off at 14? Or maybe right of divorce ( because of course it's different for men and women). And how does freedom of religion work when the law is religious itself? > Even Jewish historians admit that Jews had it best under Islam. That is such bullshit. Had it best? Compared to Israel or compared to Jews who emigrated to the New World? Or maybe you're making some very narrow comparison with Spain under the Inquisition to fit your crazy narrative? Your worldview is completely incompatible with a free country. You're, of course, free to espouse it and practice it, in any country compatible with it (just don't try anything different there or you might get in prison/killed).
    - azth 5y ago
      > Right to need to ask for permission to go out/drive/get married, or right to dress exactly as required? Men have restrictions as well. It's not a free for all you know. Just because the secular West has decided that humans should behave like animals, we are not going to blindly follow. We protect our women so that they don't end up being raped and harassed like they are in the West. God created us, and he knows how we behave in a world where anything goes. We're seeing the results in front of our own eyes. You wouldn't walk into a bear cave then come crying when you get mauled would you? Or walk in a sketchy alley knowing you might get mugged. Same here. > Or right to be married off at 14? Islam does not specify a particular number for marriage. What's required is both physical and mental maturity for both sexes. Permission from the girl is also required, and she cannot be married off by force. Each sex has their rights and responsibilities when it comes to marriage. Marriage is a contract, where both have roles and responsibilities. Divorce is also permitted, unlike Christianity where marriage is forever. > And how does freedom of religion work when the law is religious itself? Islam guarantees and protects the rights of non-Muslims, this is in many Hadiths. So much so that if a Muslim wrongs or diminishes the rights of a non-Muslim living on Muslim lands, or forces him to work beyond his capacity, or takes anything from him without his consent, then Muhammad Peace be upon him will plead for the non-Muslim on the Day of Judgment [1]. > That is such bullshit. Had it best? You might want to check with an actual Jewish historian Shelomo Dov Goitien who made these claims and tell him they're bs. Anyone honest with himself will also come to the same conclusion [2]. Israel is a false state formed on the blood of innocents who were killed, kicked out, and displaced. > just don't try anything different there or you might get in prison/killed Baseless FUD. [1] http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadithView.php?ID=23053 http://qaalarasulallah.com/hadithView.php?ID=23053 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6yXYR01Vg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6yXYR01Vg