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Annoying them enough might push more people to protest. The softest option of the script is one alert() message once a day, that doesn't seems like harassment,

Annoying them enough might push more people to protest. The softest option of the script is one alert() message once a day, that doesn't seems like harassment, the strictest option is to redirect you to a form on the russian government website, that's more debatable but that's up to you, you can also run custom code. If you're annoyed/blocked while trying access a website you like because your government is oppressive you might have one more reason to protest.

dannyw 5y ago
You might also think that the West is oppressing you and that your government's war is justified.
- tonyedgecombe 5y ago
  There was a poll done in December (YouGov) that showed that more than half of Russians thought NATO/The West was to blame for this situation.
john_moscow 5y ago
Dude, they lock you in Russia up if you protest too much. Russia is a full-blown dictatorship now with Internet censorship, state-operated propaganda and other bells'n'whistles.
- FrenchDevRemote 5y ago
  They lock you up in a lot of places for the same reasons. Even in the US or in Europe you might get killed at a protest. There is people protesting in Russia right now, no matter the risks, I don't see the harm in trying to increase their numbers.
  - useFAR 5y ago
    Number of protesting people in Russia is a joke.
    - john_moscow 5y ago
      Vladimir Putin is an ex-KGB officer. The country has a system for monitoring all phone communications, and the major email providers are affiliated with the state. Also, 100% of the media is spinning the "we're liberating Ukraine from the Nazis" take, and unless you spend very considerable effort doing your own research, you just won't find a single information source telling you otherwise. And if you get anywhere close to organizing a protest with a non-trivial number of participants. They will figure out who's in charge, and will put you behind bars as a warning to others. That, and people generally don't trust each other, don't trust the system, and are mostly busy trying to survive, find cheap food, and not get caught in a crossfire.
retrac 5y ago
I suppose statistically speaking you might be right, though I find it hard to imagine what kind of person is going to risk beatings or years in prison or worse over a minor inconvenience like being unable to view their favourite website. I think depending on the person this could go either way. Perhaps they feel spurned, isolated, or blamed personally, and respond with anger.
- FrenchDevRemote 5y ago
  if only one site is using it yes that's nothing if dozens of websites do the same that might push people to protest internet is a huge part of our lives, most people use it for hours everyday, it can be more than a minor inconvenience
akomtu 5y ago
And to visitors from North Korea you'd probably show 2 alerts, because they need a slighter stronger push to overcome their fear of being sent to labor camps. While you'll be watching news about their protests from a safe and comfy sofa.
thesz 5y ago
I am a Russian thus I am biased, of course. I see this as a means to divide further and to attain higher moral ground - "do THAT" in case of alert or "you are not welcome here until you SIGN THIS" in case of redirection. For that to be a little bit more fair, I would like to see a detection of NOT Russian or Belorussian visitors with alerts and redirection to forms of their respective governments who did nothing to prevent a war. Consider that a feature request. ;)
- koonsolo 5y ago
  So what do our governments need to do to prevent a war? Go back to the Soviet years and let Russia claim all of it's former territory?
  - thesz 5y ago
    I think I should point out that you are talking about preventing ongoing war. It is just not possible to prevent harm that was and is being done. I politely withdraw myself from answering your second question. It is too inflammatory. I still think that it is possible for governments to learn - they are people, just like us, - and I think it is not only Russian government who can learn from this situation. I should thank you - (non-)answering your questions made me think by standing in your shoes. It is interesting and important experience.
    - koonsolo 5y ago
      Thank you for your civil response, and my apologies for my rude response. I will ask another more genuine question (it's a real question that I have). If Russia would have a more democratically elected leader (let's just say Navalny for the sake of argument). Would the ties between EU and Russia be more collaborative, or do you still think this would have ended with a war? In other words, is NATO really out to destroy a democratic Russia (Soviet Union is already long gone)?
      - thesz 5y ago
        I think that boils down to whether concerns of Putin would be "more heard" if they were expressed by different person. From my point of view, some of these concerns were quite important for, let's say, viability of Russia as country with a pinch of independence. I rephrase. If Russia wants some independence in its decisions from external influence(#), the concerns raised by Putin are valid whoever is the leader of Russia. I think it is unfortunate if the acceptance of these concerns depends on the person expressing them. Moreso, I think it is unrealistic to expect that different person would express same concerns and get different results without exchange of some other important pieces. In other words, it appears that NATO does not like Russia in its current form. Of course I am glad to accept you apologies and, in turn, I would like to express mines. I know I can be excessively sarcastic in my tone and I would like to apologize for that. (#) I came to think that politics are all about "whose influence we prefer this time of day". The right to choose is still important.
ivan90210 5y ago
Did you protest against your government back in 2015-2016, when half a thousand of your men, women and children got shot, blown up or smeared on the sidewalks in retaliation for two decades of your government's involvement in destabilizing countries, hundreds of thousand people dead and millions more displaced? You didn't? Oh, was it not justified to hold your civilian population accountable for the actions of your democratically elected and re-elected leaders? Or did you just not get annoyed enough?

dannyw 5y ago

You might also think that the West is oppressing you and that your government's war is justified.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago
There was a poll done in December (YouGov) that showed that more than half of Russians thought NATO/The West was to blame for this situation.

john_moscow 5y ago

Dude, they lock you in Russia up if you protest too much. Russia is a full-blown dictatorship now with Internet censorship, state-operated propaganda and other bells'n'whistles.

FrenchDevRemote 5y ago
They lock you up in a lot of places for the same reasons. Even in the US or in Europe you might get killed at a protest. There is people protesting in Russia right now, no matter the risks, I don't see the harm in trying to increase their numbers.
- useFAR 5y ago
  Number of protesting people in Russia is a joke.
  - john_moscow 5y ago
    Vladimir Putin is an ex-KGB officer. The country has a system for monitoring all phone communications, and the major email providers are affiliated with the state. Also, 100% of the media is spinning the "we're liberating Ukraine from the Nazis" take, and unless you spend very considerable effort doing your own research, you just won't find a single information source telling you otherwise. And if you get anywhere close to organizing a protest with a non-trivial number of participants. They will figure out who's in charge, and will put you behind bars as a warning to others. That, and people generally don't trust each other, don't trust the system, and are mostly busy trying to survive, find cheap food, and not get caught in a crossfire.

retrac 5y ago

I suppose statistically speaking you might be right, though I find it hard to imagine what kind of person is going to risk beatings or years in prison or worse over a minor inconvenience like being unable to view their favourite website. I think depending on the person this could go either way. Perhaps they feel spurned, isolated, or blamed personally, and respond with anger.

FrenchDevRemote 5y ago
if only one site is using it yes that's nothing if dozens of websites do the same that might push people to protest internet is a huge part of our lives, most people use it for hours everyday, it can be more than a minor inconvenience

akomtu 5y ago

And to visitors from North Korea you'd probably show 2 alerts, because they need a slighter stronger push to overcome their fear of being sent to labor camps. While you'll be watching news about their protests from a safe and comfy sofa.

thesz 5y ago

I am a Russian thus I am biased, of course. I see this as a means to divide further and to attain higher moral ground - "do THAT" in case of alert or "you are not welcome here until you SIGN THIS" in case of redirection. For that to be a little bit more fair, I would like to see a detection of NOT Russian or Belorussian visitors with alerts and redirection to forms of their respective governments who did nothing to prevent a war. Consider that a feature request. ;)

koonsolo 5y ago
So what do our governments need to do to prevent a war? Go back to the Soviet years and let Russia claim all of it's former territory?
- thesz 5y ago
  I think I should point out that you are talking about preventing ongoing war. It is just not possible to prevent harm that was and is being done. I politely withdraw myself from answering your second question. It is too inflammatory. I still think that it is possible for governments to learn - they are people, just like us, - and I think it is not only Russian government who can learn from this situation. I should thank you - (non-)answering your questions made me think by standing in your shoes. It is interesting and important experience.
  - koonsolo 5y ago
    Thank you for your civil response, and my apologies for my rude response. I will ask another more genuine question (it's a real question that I have). If Russia would have a more democratically elected leader (let's just say Navalny for the sake of argument). Would the ties between EU and Russia be more collaborative, or do you still think this would have ended with a war? In other words, is NATO really out to destroy a democratic Russia (Soviet Union is already long gone)?
    - thesz 5y ago
      I think that boils down to whether concerns of Putin would be "more heard" if they were expressed by different person. From my point of view, some of these concerns were quite important for, let's say, viability of Russia as country with a pinch of independence. I rephrase. If Russia wants some independence in its decisions from external influence(#), the concerns raised by Putin are valid whoever is the leader of Russia. I think it is unfortunate if the acceptance of these concerns depends on the person expressing them. Moreso, I think it is unrealistic to expect that different person would express same concerns and get different results without exchange of some other important pieces. In other words, it appears that NATO does not like Russia in its current form. Of course I am glad to accept you apologies and, in turn, I would like to express mines. I know I can be excessively sarcastic in my tone and I would like to apologize for that. (#) I came to think that politics are all about "whose influence we prefer this time of day". The right to choose is still important.

ivan90210 5y ago

Did you protest against your government back in 2015-2016, when half a thousand of your men, women and children got shot, blown up or smeared on the sidewalks in retaliation for two decades of your government's involvement in destabilizing countries, hundreds of thousand people dead and millions more displaced? You didn't? Oh, was it not justified to hold your civilian population accountable for the actions of your democratically elected and re-elected leaders? Or did you just not get annoyed enough?