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Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, Feb 25, 2022

28 points by georgecmu 5y ago

vondur 5y ago
If Russian forces are already entering Kyiv at this point, I’m thinking it will be a quick war.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > If Russian forces are already entering Kyiv at this point, I’m thinking it will be a quick war. How long did the Iraq War continue after US forces entered Baghdad? Afghanistan after US (or USSR, take your pick) entered Kabul?
  - vondur 5y ago
    I suppose we will see. I don’t know if the people of Ukraine are willing to put up that much of a fight over Russian occupation.
jka 5y ago
Here's the earliest copy (2020) of the "Who We Are" page from the source domain available on the Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200405160640/https://www.iswresearch.org/p/who-we-are.html https://web.archive.org/web/20200405160640/https://www.iswre... The copyright notice on the page dates back a little further, to 2018. It is the postcursor to a previous domain for (approximately?) the same organization, which dates back to 2007: https://web.archive.org/web/20070322221547/http://www.understandingwar.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20070322221547/http://www.unders...
- axiosgunnar 5y ago
  Meaning?
  - jka 5y ago
    An attempt to share some facts for the future to look back on, not really relevant for today's conversation.
    - credit_guy 5y ago
      I don't get it. You are saying these guys should not be trusted? Are they biased towards Russia, or towards Ukraine? Or what? And why?
      - jka 5y ago
        Hey, thanks for asking. I'm an open book - can you explain why those questions sprang to mind? All I intend to provide is observations.
        EliRivers 5y ago
        There are an infinity of observations to be made about anything. Are yours random, or guided? Why did you observe that in particular, rather than anything else in the infinite range of things to observe?
        jka 5y ago
        What difference does it make? :)
        dredmorbius 5y ago
        Context and background are relevant. Being gratuitously evasive in response to questions is at best annoying. If you can provide context do. If you don't know, state as much. Don't be obnoxious.
        jka 5y ago
aluminum96 5y ago
Although Russia has made significant progress into the interior of the country, it's with quite a few more setbacks than I expected. They can't be happy about the extensive fighting over Gostomel airfield, in what should have been an overwhelming victory against a much smaller force.
robwwilliams 5y ago
Most useful summary of Russian invasion and Ukrainian defense I have seen in last two days. Map also appreciated. If Kiev falls where will Free Ukraine build its bastion? Sub-Carpathian plains and city of Uzhhorod adjacent to Slovenia looks defensible and could be well supplied by West. Short jump south west if Lviv.

28 points by georgecmu 5y ago

vondur 5y ago

If Russian forces are already entering Kyiv at this point, I’m thinking it will be a quick war.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> If Russian forces are already entering Kyiv at this point, I’m thinking it will be a quick war. How long did the Iraq War continue after US forces entered Baghdad? Afghanistan after US (or USSR, take your pick) entered Kabul?
- vondur 5y ago
  I suppose we will see. I don’t know if the people of Ukraine are willing to put up that much of a fight over Russian occupation.

jka 5y ago

Here's the earliest copy (2020) of the "Who We Are" page from the source domain available on the Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200405160640/https://www.iswresearch.org/p/who-we-are.html https://web.archive.org/web/20200405160640/https://www.iswre... The copyright notice on the page dates back a little further, to 2018. It is the postcursor to a previous domain for (approximately?) the same organization, which dates back to 2007: https://web.archive.org/web/20070322221547/http://www.understandingwar.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20070322221547/http://www.unders...

axiosgunnar 5y ago
Meaning?
- jka 5y ago
  An attempt to share some facts for the future to look back on, not really relevant for today's conversation.
  - credit_guy 5y ago
    I don't get it. You are saying these guys should not be trusted? Are they biased towards Russia, or towards Ukraine? Or what? And why?
    - jka 5y ago
      Hey, thanks for asking. I'm an open book - can you explain why those questions sprang to mind? All I intend to provide is observations.
      - EliRivers 5y ago
        There are an infinity of observations to be made about anything. Are yours random, or guided? Why did you observe that in particular, rather than anything else in the infinite range of things to observe?
        jka 5y ago
        What difference does it make? :)
        dredmorbius 5y ago
        Context and background are relevant. Being gratuitously evasive in response to questions is at best annoying. If you can provide context do. If you don't know, state as much. Don't be obnoxious.
        jka 5y ago

aluminum96 5y ago

Although Russia has made significant progress into the interior of the country, it's with quite a few more setbacks than I expected. They can't be happy about the extensive fighting over Gostomel airfield, in what should have been an overwhelming victory against a much smaller force.

robwwilliams 5y ago

Most useful summary of Russian invasion and Ukrainian defense I have seen in last two days. Map also appreciated. If Kiev falls where will Free Ukraine build its bastion? Sub-Carpathian plains and city of Uzhhorod adjacent to Slovenia looks defensible and could be well supplied by West. Short jump south west if Lviv.