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Considering that they're mostly just passing by, and that the levels are not really high, it won't be that bad. I didn't do the math, but the radiation levels

Considering that they're mostly just passing by, and that the levels are not really high, it won't be that bad. I didn't do the math, but the radiation levels for driving past there, or staying there for a day or two, would probably be very low, and comparable to a lot of other stuff we do without thinking (plane rides, xrays etc.)

temac 5y ago
They will breath the dust and get some internal radiation though. Not really a problem for the others if they move after that, but not very good for them.
- connordoner 5y ago
  One might argue that’s a price you pay when murdering innocent civilians in land that isn’t yours, no?
  - yumraj 5y ago
    Yeah, but Putin's not the one breathing it - the foot soldiers are.
    - chasil 5y ago
      I am drawn to the words of Stephen Decatur. "In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong." I am sure there are many perspectives tonight with the same focus. Perhaps it is a great impediment to what must be done for our species, but it is hard to let go.
  - belval 5y ago
    Not to be a apologist of what Russia is doing (really really against the current invasion/occupation) but from what we've seen around social media, it's not clear that the actual soldiers on the ground understand that they aren't "liberating" the Ukrainians from actual Nazis. They are fed misinformation on a daily basis and at least some of them see themselves as the "good guys". It does not excuse anything really, but I wouldn't wish them pulmonary cancer.
    - ajsnigrutin 5y ago
      Eh, the soldiers know... it's for "power", against nato, and to get a bit more of the land. Look at every past conflict, every american soldier in iraq knew, that they were going in to get the oil, everything else was just propaganda for the taxpayers.
      - thrashh 5y ago
        Yeah this war is to try to stop NATO expansion, especially into Ukraine. In a way, it may do that. It’s just silly because countries have considered joining NATO because they don’t perceive Russia as a good friend, and in response, Russia doubles down as a bad friend.
        quadrangle 5y ago
        Sounds like a significant-other who is paranoid, and then when you leave them because they are crazy, they use it to justify their paranoia and become a stalker. Okay, not really a good analogy but sorta good
      - stjohnswarts 5y ago
        For further clarification this is NOT a war to stop NATO expansion as Ukraine was no where near that and it could have been stopped diplomatically. This is a war started by a dictator who has aims to restore the USSR before he kills over or is deposed in the next 10 to 15 years. This war is about nothing more than Putin's ego. Just for clarification.
        m348e912 5y ago
        The last thing Putin needs is another quagmire like Afghanistan in the 80s for the USSR, and the 2000s/2010s for the US. If anything he'd probably like to see Luhansk and Donetsk become globally recognized independent states. Ukraine is certainly strategic. Russia has recently INCREASED gas supplies through Ukraine even though they are at war. The idea that he's a madman looking to get the old commie band back together is kind of far-fetched. This is about money and influence, and specifically Nordstream2, which I imagine will go online sooner rather than later.
- mr_mitm 5y ago
  Being sent into war is also not very good for them. The radiation is probably the least of their worries.
contravariant 5y ago
The problem with breathing the stuff is that it may stay with you for quite a while. This isn't the worst thing with gamma radiation since most radiation will just pass through the body, but beta or alpha radiation could be worrying if that's still present (I don't know if it is, but disturbing the ground in Chernobyl and breathing the resulting dust doesn't sound like the safest way to find out)
- lazide 5y ago
  They are soldiers in an active war zone. They have far more serious and pressing concerns than a slightly elevated radiation dose.
DominikD 5y ago
They aren't just passing by. There's an ongoing fight for the control over this terrain. And, in the unlikely event of Russian troops retreating, I wouldn't put past Russia bombing it.
- jack_pp 5y ago
  Considering the whole reason for this crisis is Russia's proximity to Ukraine, wouldn't that mean contamination spreading to Russia too?
  - DominikD 5y ago
    Wind in this area is primarily a westward one.

temac 5y ago

They will breath the dust and get some internal radiation though. Not really a problem for the others if they move after that, but not very good for them.

connordoner 5y ago
One might argue that’s a price you pay when murdering innocent civilians in land that isn’t yours, no?
- yumraj 5y ago
  Yeah, but Putin's not the one breathing it - the foot soldiers are.
  - chasil 5y ago
    I am drawn to the words of Stephen Decatur. "In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong." I am sure there are many perspectives tonight with the same focus. Perhaps it is a great impediment to what must be done for our species, but it is hard to let go.
- belval 5y ago
  Not to be a apologist of what Russia is doing (really really against the current invasion/occupation) but from what we've seen around social media, it's not clear that the actual soldiers on the ground understand that they aren't "liberating" the Ukrainians from actual Nazis. They are fed misinformation on a daily basis and at least some of them see themselves as the "good guys". It does not excuse anything really, but I wouldn't wish them pulmonary cancer.
  - ajsnigrutin 5y ago
    Eh, the soldiers know... it's for "power", against nato, and to get a bit more of the land. Look at every past conflict, every american soldier in iraq knew, that they were going in to get the oil, everything else was just propaganda for the taxpayers.
    - thrashh 5y ago
      Yeah this war is to try to stop NATO expansion, especially into Ukraine. In a way, it may do that. It’s just silly because countries have considered joining NATO because they don’t perceive Russia as a good friend, and in response, Russia doubles down as a bad friend.
      - quadrangle 5y ago
        Sounds like a significant-other who is paranoid, and then when you leave them because they are crazy, they use it to justify their paranoia and become a stalker. Okay, not really a good analogy but sorta good
    - stjohnswarts 5y ago
      For further clarification this is NOT a war to stop NATO expansion as Ukraine was no where near that and it could have been stopped diplomatically. This is a war started by a dictator who has aims to restore the USSR before he kills over or is deposed in the next 10 to 15 years. This war is about nothing more than Putin's ego. Just for clarification.
      - m348e912 5y ago
        The last thing Putin needs is another quagmire like Afghanistan in the 80s for the USSR, and the 2000s/2010s for the US. If anything he'd probably like to see Luhansk and Donetsk become globally recognized independent states. Ukraine is certainly strategic. Russia has recently INCREASED gas supplies through Ukraine even though they are at war. The idea that he's a madman looking to get the old commie band back together is kind of far-fetched. This is about money and influence, and specifically Nordstream2, which I imagine will go online sooner rather than later.
mr_mitm 5y ago
Being sent into war is also not very good for them. The radiation is probably the least of their worries.

contravariant 5y ago

The problem with breathing the stuff is that it may stay with you for quite a while. This isn't the worst thing with gamma radiation since most radiation will just pass through the body, but beta or alpha radiation could be worrying if that's still present (I don't know if it is, but disturbing the ground in Chernobyl and breathing the resulting dust doesn't sound like the safest way to find out)

lazide 5y ago
They are soldiers in an active war zone. They have far more serious and pressing concerns than a slightly elevated radiation dose.

DominikD 5y ago

They aren't just passing by. There's an ongoing fight for the control over this terrain. And, in the unlikely event of Russian troops retreating, I wouldn't put past Russia bombing it.

jack_pp 5y ago
Considering the whole reason for this crisis is Russia's proximity to Ukraine, wouldn't that mean contamination spreading to Russia too?
- DominikD 5y ago
  Wind in this area is primarily a westward one.