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Really? He is fighting to have veto over who gets to join NATO. It will be a victory for him if he is able to freeze NATO membership to the current number. Rus

Really? He is fighting to have veto over who gets to join NATO. It will be a victory for him if he is able to freeze NATO membership to the current number. Russian economy maybe be ruined for next decade or longer and most likely Putin will be dead or retired by then but he would be looked in Russia as the guy who keep Russia relevant. Putin is embarrassing US and NATO by destroying Ukraine while they watch helplessly. I have utmost sympathy for Ukraine but where were the angry people when US attacked Iraq?

6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
> I have utmost sympathy for Ukraine but where were the angry people when US attacked Iraq? There were massive protests. I was at one in San Francisco.
jacquesm 5y ago
He will be the guy that turned Russia into a complete pariah. At some point other Russians in power will realize that Putin is the cause of their troubles, that's one of the better roads to an acceptable outcome here.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> I have utmost sympathy for Ukraine but where were the angry people when US attacked Iraq? In many cases, calling for George W. Bush and much of the military and diplomatic leadership of the US to be punished for the crime of aggression (initially) and war crimes (based on the conduct of the illegal-from-the-start war).
- Ekaros 5y ago
  Should really be extended to much further. To soldiers, to financial supporters of those and their parties, to voters. All complicit and hands covered in blood.
bjtitus 5y ago
You replied to a report about two more Northern European countries joining NATO who seem to have been against it before by saying Putin is freezing NATO membership where it is? It seems like things are going completely opposite of the way you describe them.
- toxik 5y ago
  Sweden and Finland is NOT joining NATO, if that is what you think.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    Sweden and Finland are definitely NOT committing to never joining NATO, if that is what you think.
grey-area 5y ago
There were protests by over a million people in the UK when coalition forces invaded Iraq. To address your other point, victory for Putin here is swift regime change in Ukraine, nothing else will serve. He may have overreached and if he has he will bleed Russia dry within months and be overthrown. Let’s hope so as he is a despicable person and a tyrannical curse on his country.
yokaze 5y ago
> I have utmost sympathy for Ukraine but where were the angry people when US attacked Iraq? "On February 15, millions of people protested, in approximately 800 cities around the world. Listed by the 2004 Guinness Book of Records as the largest protest in human history". There is a whole page on all the protest for that particular topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War

6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago

> I have utmost sympathy for Ukraine but where were the angry people when US attacked Iraq? There were massive protests. I was at one in San Francisco.

jacquesm 5y ago

He will be the guy that turned Russia into a complete pariah. At some point other Russians in power will realize that Putin is the cause of their troubles, that's one of the better roads to an acceptable outcome here.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> I have utmost sympathy for Ukraine but where were the angry people when US attacked Iraq? In many cases, calling for George W. Bush and much of the military and diplomatic leadership of the US to be punished for the crime of aggression (initially) and war crimes (based on the conduct of the illegal-from-the-start war).

Ekaros 5y ago
Should really be extended to much further. To soldiers, to financial supporters of those and their parties, to voters. All complicit and hands covered in blood.

bjtitus 5y ago

You replied to a report about two more Northern European countries joining NATO who seem to have been against it before by saying Putin is freezing NATO membership where it is? It seems like things are going completely opposite of the way you describe them.

toxik 5y ago
Sweden and Finland is NOT joining NATO, if that is what you think.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  Sweden and Finland are definitely NOT committing to never joining NATO, if that is what you think.

grey-area 5y ago

There were protests by over a million people in the UK when coalition forces invaded Iraq. To address your other point, victory for Putin here is swift regime change in Ukraine, nothing else will serve. He may have overreached and if he has he will bleed Russia dry within months and be overthrown. Let’s hope so as he is a despicable person and a tyrannical curse on his country.

yokaze 5y ago

> I have utmost sympathy for Ukraine but where were the angry people when US attacked Iraq? "On February 15, millions of people protested, in approximately 800 cities around the world. Listed by the 2004 Guinness Book of Records as the largest protest in human history". There is a whole page on all the protest for that particular topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War