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Even worse, when you invade someone who tried to join NATO, was given the same warning, didn't join NATO, and then was invaded anyway. Finland and Sweden shoul
by rhino369 5y ago
Even worse, when you invade someone who tried to join NATO, was given the same warning, didn't join NATO, and then was invaded anyway.
Finland and Sweden should join now while Russia doesn't have the ability to invade (because their forces are busy in Ukraine).
- AnimalMuppet 5y agoWhether they join or not, Finland and Sweden better beef up their defenses, starting yesterday...
- avgcorrection 5y agoWhat are you talking about? Sweden placed patrolling troops in Gotland right when Russia increased their presence in the Baltic Sea during this buildup.
- CRConrad 5y agoSweden has almost fuck-all to place anywhere compared to what it had a few decades ago. It's not like the Swedish Air Force is the fourth-largest in the world any more...
- Someone1234 5y agoI agree; I think there was this kind of default assumption (due to MAD) that wars in Northern Europe were mostly over. All these recent events have done is prove that nuclear nations will swallow up non-nuclear nations if they don't have a MAD assurance from an alley. Finland and Sweden should decide themselves what is best, but I only wish the best for both countries and after this I cannot bring myself to believe it couldn't happen again. The only major benefit Finland has over Ukraine is geography.
- SAI_Peregrinus 5y agoIt's been clear for years now that nuclear weapons are required to be a sovereign nation. Without enough nukes to be a real threat, the nuclear nations will simply take over when they feel it's worth it.
- bluGill 5y agoAlso relations with NATO. Even if not in NATO directly, the stronger relations are the more likely it is various NATO countries are to come to their aid.
- lamontcg 5y agoTime for Finland and Sweden to do some casual joint military exercises with NATO where a pile of NATO jets get parked on runways all around those countries and some naval vessels pull into their ports. Just military people chilling and shooting the shit with other military people.
- reitanqild 5y agoHappy to say it seems Finland started decades ago and never stopped. Sweden I think is also not to unprepared. Even Norway (who is a Nato member) seems to be somewhat better prepared than last time there was a dictator on the loose in Europe.
- ROTMetro 5y agoUkraine was denied membership by Nato, after the west encouraged Ukraine to depose the Russian backed government, they didn't 'not join'.