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> And there will still be no human oversite of these sorts of bans. Articles about YT say that 500 hours of video are uploaded every minute. Moderation has to

> And there will still be no human oversite of these sorts of bans. Articles about YT say that 500 hours of video are uploaded every minute. Moderation has to be automated. You cannot throw more humans effectively at this problem.

josephcsible 5y ago
If we're going to go that approach, then I'd rather 100 videos be incorrectly left up than 1 video to be incorrectly taken down.
- khazhoux 5y ago
  Well, it's not really an "if". But, clearly YT's assessment is that the harm of a "bad" video being served on their platform greatly outweighs the harm of incorrect takedowns (which can be appealed). I will call this "The Principle Of Can't Unsee."
rndphs 5y ago
500 hours of video per minute = 30000 per hour. If a moderator watches 30 hours per week that'd be about 0.2 hours per hour. So you'd need 150,000 moderators to watch every minute. Given that billions of people watch youtube, this is one moderator per ten thousand or more viewers. Also considering most of those videos are not going to be watched by more than a handful of people, you could probably get away with a tenth that by only moderating videos with say 100+ views. So about 10,000 moderators required. This costs under a billion per year. Given that Youtube brings in $20B + of revenue, I'm sure this would not kill their profits.
- mkl 5y ago
  You could save a lot more by watching faster than real-time and automatically skipping title sequences, gaps, etc.
- sharken 5y ago
  It's not just the wages, it's also the extra cost of handling a considerable part of the mods who will develop PTSD. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52642633 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52642633 So you now have a situation where you are making thousands ill and in doing so will incur a cost much higher than 1B per year. But yes, it can be done.
elliekelly 5y ago
YouTube could easily reduce the numerator rather than trying to scale up the denominator. Almost every major subreddit has some minimum karma a user needs before they can participate. YouTube could similarly cap brand new accounts at X minutes of publicly available/searchable video.

josephcsible 5y ago

If we're going to go that approach, then I'd rather 100 videos be incorrectly left up than 1 video to be incorrectly taken down.

khazhoux 5y ago
Well, it's not really an "if". But, clearly YT's assessment is that the harm of a "bad" video being served on their platform greatly outweighs the harm of incorrect takedowns (which can be appealed). I will call this "The Principle Of Can't Unsee."

rndphs 5y ago

500 hours of video per minute = 30000 per hour. If a moderator watches 30 hours per week that'd be about 0.2 hours per hour. So you'd need 150,000 moderators to watch every minute. Given that billions of people watch youtube, this is one moderator per ten thousand or more viewers. Also considering most of those videos are not going to be watched by more than a handful of people, you could probably get away with a tenth that by only moderating videos with say 100+ views. So about 10,000 moderators required. This costs under a billion per year. Given that Youtube brings in $20B + of revenue, I'm sure this would not kill their profits.

mkl 5y ago
You could save a lot more by watching faster than real-time and automatically skipping title sequences, gaps, etc.
sharken 5y ago
It's not just the wages, it's also the extra cost of handling a considerable part of the mods who will develop PTSD. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52642633 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52642633 So you now have a situation where you are making thousands ill and in doing so will incur a cost much higher than 1B per year. But yes, it can be done.

elliekelly 5y ago

YouTube could easily reduce the numerator rather than trying to scale up the denominator. Almost every major subreddit has some minimum karma a user needs before they can participate. YouTube could similarly cap brand new accounts at X minutes of publicly available/searchable video.