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Ah yes, it's easy to forget that children's drawings aren't already alive in their (and their parents) imagination, and that we need to ship some personal (and

by jka 5y ago

Ah yes, it's easy to forget that children's drawings aren't already alive in their (and their parents) imagination, and that we need to ship some personal (and in some ways, sensitive and later nostalgic) data to a for-profit entity in order to achieve that. Glad to have 'em around!

forgotmyoldacc 5y ago
> Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- jka 5y ago
  Duly noted, thank you. Shallow dismissals can be an indication of a knee-jerk reaction, potentially based on existing biases and/or life experiences, as opposed to the kind of rational examination that makes HN enjoyable. The fact that they're disallowed on Hacker News changes the tone of conversation here significantly, relative to other social media; comments that stop and make the reader think -- preferably with supporting references and at-minimum-plausible arguments -- are valued, and the resulting perception of the community by participants is one of an intelligent, well-mannered collegiate environment (with healthy competition). In other words, the kind of surroundings that have traditionally been associated with long-standing centres of education. Whether that perception is accurate (or desirable, honestly) is, I'd argue, up for debate. As would be whether the use of the term 'hacker' itself has diverged between its origins[1] and the context in which it's used here. No: it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction; this company appears to be awful and given their repeated behaviour, this seems like standard practice for them. I do not dismiss the hard work and ingenuity of the people who developed the feature -- I'm sure it was challenging and rewarding as they saw it -- but I don't believe that "hard work", "impressive work" and "good work" are always overlapping elements in a venn diagram. [1] - http://tmrc.mit.edu/hackers-ref.html http://tmrc.mit.edu/hackers-ref.html
disqard 5y ago
I wanted to reply here to support what you wrote above, but my way of articulating it would be: "just because it's cool and can be done, doesn't mean that it needs to be done". Especially when it comes to things built+used for children's imaginative play. It reminds me of the classic LEGO ad: https://imgur.com/gallery/xwAsW56 https://imgur.com/gallery/xwAsW56

by jka 5y ago

forgotmyoldacc 5y ago

> Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

jka 5y ago
Duly noted, thank you. Shallow dismissals can be an indication of a knee-jerk reaction, potentially based on existing biases and/or life experiences, as opposed to the kind of rational examination that makes HN enjoyable. The fact that they're disallowed on Hacker News changes the tone of conversation here significantly, relative to other social media; comments that stop and make the reader think -- preferably with supporting references and at-minimum-plausible arguments -- are valued, and the resulting perception of the community by participants is one of an intelligent, well-mannered collegiate environment (with healthy competition). In other words, the kind of surroundings that have traditionally been associated with long-standing centres of education. Whether that perception is accurate (or desirable, honestly) is, I'd argue, up for debate. As would be whether the use of the term 'hacker' itself has diverged between its origins[1] and the context in which it's used here. No: it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction; this company appears to be awful and given their repeated behaviour, this seems like standard practice for them. I do not dismiss the hard work and ingenuity of the people who developed the feature -- I'm sure it was challenging and rewarding as they saw it -- but I don't believe that "hard work", "impressive work" and "good work" are always overlapping elements in a venn diagram. [1] - http://tmrc.mit.edu/hackers-ref.html http://tmrc.mit.edu/hackers-ref.html

disqard 5y ago

I wanted to reply here to support what you wrote above, but my way of articulating it would be: "just because it's cool and can be done, doesn't mean that it needs to be done". Especially when it comes to things built+used for children's imaginative play. It reminds me of the classic LEGO ad: https://imgur.com/gallery/xwAsW56 https://imgur.com/gallery/xwAsW56