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> Of course, they probably wouldn't be in this position if they hadn't taken energy strategy advice from Greta Thunberg, but that's neither here nor there. Wha

> Of course, they probably wouldn't be in this position if they hadn't taken energy strategy advice from Greta Thunberg, but that's neither here nor there. What the fuck? I'm pretty positive that the energy strategy of major western powers was not radically revamped in two years on the advice of a teenager. If anything, they're in this position because they pursued an opposite strategy to what ecologists advocate: reduce dependency on fossil fuels including Russian natural gas, and invest massively in renewables + nuclear to bridge the gap.

buu700 5y ago
I think what they were referring to was Germany prematurely decommissioning nuclear plants only to start replacing them with coal and (more importantly) Nord Stream 2, which I never understood either. I can't comment on whether Greta Thunberg had anything to do with that, but I do see in a recent article that she appears to be anti-nuclear: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/21/eu-in-row-over-inclusion-of-gas-and-nuclear-in-sustainability-guidance https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/21/eu-in-row-over...
- KarlKemp 5y ago
  Replacing them with coal would have been a good idea, at least as far as Russia is concerned, since it’s a local source of energy. In reality it was, indeed, natural gas and renewables. Bringing Thunberg into this discussion serves no purpose except making conservatives giggle because they love hating her. She had nothing to with the decision, and being anti-nuclear isn’t what she’s known for. Northstream 2 was, indeed, a terrible idea. But it never became operational and therefore does not affect the current situation.
  - buu700 5y ago
    Replacing them with coal would have been a good idea, at least as far as Russia is concerned Did Russia have some involvement in Germany's nuclear power infrastructure? I'm not aware of that, but interested to know more. Bringing Thunberg into this discussion serves no purpose except making conservatives giggle because they love hating her. She had nothing to with the decision, and being anti-nuclear isn’t what she’s known for. Sure, it was probably a bit forced. I wouldn't have chosen to bring her up. Either way, her anti-nuclear stance is now a relatively widely publicized recent event; I don't see that GP did something particularly wrong in referencing it. Northstream 2 was, indeed, a terrible idea. But it never became operational and therefore does not affect the current situation. Huh? It's directly related to the current situation.

buu700 5y ago

I think what they were referring to was Germany prematurely decommissioning nuclear plants only to start replacing them with coal and (more importantly) Nord Stream 2, which I never understood either. I can't comment on whether Greta Thunberg had anything to do with that, but I do see in a recent article that she appears to be anti-nuclear: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/21/eu-in-row-over-inclusion-of-gas-and-nuclear-in-sustainability-guidance https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/21/eu-in-row-over...

KarlKemp 5y ago
Replacing them with coal would have been a good idea, at least as far as Russia is concerned, since it’s a local source of energy. In reality it was, indeed, natural gas and renewables. Bringing Thunberg into this discussion serves no purpose except making conservatives giggle because they love hating her. She had nothing to with the decision, and being anti-nuclear isn’t what she’s known for. Northstream 2 was, indeed, a terrible idea. But it never became operational and therefore does not affect the current situation.
- buu700 5y ago
  Replacing them with coal would have been a good idea, at least as far as Russia is concerned Did Russia have some involvement in Germany's nuclear power infrastructure? I'm not aware of that, but interested to know more. Bringing Thunberg into this discussion serves no purpose except making conservatives giggle because they love hating her. She had nothing to with the decision, and being anti-nuclear isn’t what she’s known for. Sure, it was probably a bit forced. I wouldn't have chosen to bring her up. Either way, her anti-nuclear stance is now a relatively widely publicized recent event; I don't see that GP did something particularly wrong in referencing it. Northstream 2 was, indeed, a terrible idea. But it never became operational and therefore does not affect the current situation. Huh? It's directly related to the current situation.