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The sanctions are theatre and will be lifted in a year or so. If the West really cared Swift would have happened long ago. The reality is they do not care for

The sanctions are theatre and will be lifted in a year or so. If the West really cared Swift would have happened long ago. The reality is they do not care for Ukraine.

stef25 5y ago
> The reality is they do not care for Ukraine. I've been thinking about this all day and feel incredibly upset when I see what's going on. What can we do? Have you seen what the Russians did to Grozny? It all boils down to the fact that EU simply can't start a war with a maniac that has thousands of nukes. I'd say let him have it and Ukrainians refugees are welcome here by the millions. Putin's now threatening Finland and Sweden should they dare join NATO and there's talk of the conflict spilling over in to Moldova and Georgia. That would change things drastically. As soon as EU or US forces take military action against Russia we have to assume he'll retaliate and then it's basically WW3. If that's what it takes to get rid of this maniac then so be it but the consequences for everyone will be severe.
- chasd00 5y ago
  > Putin's now threatening Finland and Sweden should they dare join NATO do you have a link i can read up on? I would imagine everyone is running to the safety of NATO now and i can totally see Putin saying "if you try then you're next". > ...then it's basically WW3. If that's what it takes to get rid of this maniac then so be it but the consequences for everyone will be severe. "severe" would be the mildest term possible to describe what would happen heh
  - kevinventullo 5y ago
    https://mobile.twitter.com/g_mastropavlos/status/1497237856879878171 https://mobile.twitter.com/g_mastropavlos/status/14972378568...
  - stef25 5y ago
    It was on the Guardian news feed, can't find it again but here's another link https://www.newsweek.com/russia-threatens-finland-sweden-nato-ukraine-invasion-1682715 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-threatens-finland-sweden-nat... Sweden and Finland probably don't feel the need to join Nato but the threat that was made is enough to put EU on edge. Scandinavia is much "closer" than Ukraine. Severe indeed.
    - redisman 5y ago
      They literally state that every few months. Lavrov just said it in December.
landemva 5y ago
>> The reality is they do not care for Ukraine. The facts support that interpretation. USA withdrew troops two weeks ago, which signaled to Russia they could move in. https://www.trtworld.com/americas/us-withdraws-nearly-all-remaining-troops-from-ukraine-54676 https://www.trtworld.com/americas/us-withdraws-nearly-all-re... ' US withdraws nearly all remaining troops from Ukraine '

The sanctions are theatre and will be lifted in a year or so. If the West really cared Swift would have happened long ago. The reality is they do not care for Ukraine.

stef25 5y ago

> The reality is they do not care for Ukraine. I've been thinking about this all day and feel incredibly upset when I see what's going on. What can we do? Have you seen what the Russians did to Grozny? It all boils down to the fact that EU simply can't start a war with a maniac that has thousands of nukes. I'd say let him have it and Ukrainians refugees are welcome here by the millions. Putin's now threatening Finland and Sweden should they dare join NATO and there's talk of the conflict spilling over in to Moldova and Georgia. That would change things drastically. As soon as EU or US forces take military action against Russia we have to assume he'll retaliate and then it's basically WW3. If that's what it takes to get rid of this maniac then so be it but the consequences for everyone will be severe.

chasd00 5y ago
> Putin's now threatening Finland and Sweden should they dare join NATO do you have a link i can read up on? I would imagine everyone is running to the safety of NATO now and i can totally see Putin saying "if you try then you're next". > ...then it's basically WW3. If that's what it takes to get rid of this maniac then so be it but the consequences for everyone will be severe. "severe" would be the mildest term possible to describe what would happen heh
- kevinventullo 5y ago
  https://mobile.twitter.com/g_mastropavlos/status/1497237856879878171 https://mobile.twitter.com/g_mastropavlos/status/14972378568...
- stef25 5y ago
  It was on the Guardian news feed, can't find it again but here's another link https://www.newsweek.com/russia-threatens-finland-sweden-nato-ukraine-invasion-1682715 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-threatens-finland-sweden-nat... Sweden and Finland probably don't feel the need to join Nato but the threat that was made is enough to put EU on edge. Scandinavia is much "closer" than Ukraine. Severe indeed.
  - redisman 5y ago
    They literally state that every few months. Lavrov just said it in December.

landemva 5y ago

>> The reality is they do not care for Ukraine. The facts support that interpretation. USA withdrew troops two weeks ago, which signaled to Russia they could move in. https://www.trtworld.com/americas/us-withdraws-nearly-all-remaining-troops-from-ukraine-54676 https://www.trtworld.com/americas/us-withdraws-nearly-all-re... ' US withdraws nearly all remaining troops from Ukraine '