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> They said it's not intended to stop Russia, but to inflict pain on the citizens, so that they citizens will turn against leadership. Which country has it eve

> They said it's not intended to stop Russia, but to inflict pain on the citizens, so that they citizens will turn against leadership. Which country has it ever worked out on? Cuba? Venezuela? North Korea? None of them have turned on their dictators. Rather, they are living life in misery. What is worse is they have been not just cut off monetarily from the rest of the World, the dictators have made sure to censor all content coming into the country. So they have no idea (or worse: false propaganda) of what is going on outside their territory. I haven't seen sanctions actually work in even one case (will be happy to correct myself if there has been a case where sanctions actually worked). Where people fought back against the dictator and established democratic rule. Even if there were popular uprisings it has lead to establishment of even more autocratic rulers or worse, control by militias/warlords or terror groups.

ido 5y ago
South Africa[0]? "Economic sanctions against South Africa placed a significant pressure on the government that helped to end apartheid." [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_apartheid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during...
stef25 5y ago
Sanctions would work indirectly in the sense that the people would support regime change even if they can't bring it about themselves, if it means sanctions will be lifted and their standard of living will get better. I don't think in any of the countries you list there's popular support of the leadership.
krzyk 5y ago
Romania, Libya? Tzar Russia?
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  Libya didn't work. NATO had to do it militarily. As for Romania, it had nothing to do with sanctions, and that's the same for the Tsars.
mysecretaccount 5y ago
> [Cuba citizens] are living life in misery. Cuba has higher life expectancy and a lower infant mortality rate than the USA. I think it is a mistake to lump it in with Venezuela or North Korea.
csomar 5y ago
Cuba/NK are much smaller countries. For Venezuela, it insured the country cannot function properly. Russia is huge. Russia becoming the next Venezuela will trigger a sequence of events that will lead to its de-fragmentation into smaller states. (ie: Chechnya will probably go rogue)

ido 5y ago

South Africa[0]? "Economic sanctions against South Africa placed a significant pressure on the government that helped to end apartheid." [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_apartheid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during...

stef25 5y ago

Sanctions would work indirectly in the sense that the people would support regime change even if they can't bring it about themselves, if it means sanctions will be lifted and their standard of living will get better. I don't think in any of the countries you list there's popular support of the leadership.

krzyk 5y ago

Romania, Libya? Tzar Russia?

sudosysgen 5y ago
Libya didn't work. NATO had to do it militarily. As for Romania, it had nothing to do with sanctions, and that's the same for the Tsars.

mysecretaccount 5y ago

> [Cuba citizens] are living life in misery. Cuba has higher life expectancy and a lower infant mortality rate than the USA. I think it is a mistake to lump it in with Venezuela or North Korea.

csomar 5y ago

Cuba/NK are much smaller countries. For Venezuela, it insured the country cannot function properly. Russia is huge. Russia becoming the next Venezuela will trigger a sequence of events that will lead to its de-fragmentation into smaller states. (ie: Chechnya will probably go rogue)