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You hold a position to launch attacks from that are hard to counter attack. Setup your artillery there and they can’t just shell the area back out of fear of c

You hold a position to launch attacks from that are hard to counter attack. Setup your artillery there and they can’t just shell the area back out of fear of causing a nuclear disaster. IMO, the UN should have stepped in and taken control of the nuclear zone. There is a global risk here.

yaris 5y ago
From some russian sources I’ve read that Chernobyl has been taken by Belarus soldiers, not russians. Because Belarus guys are sensitive to anything going on around Chernobyl and want to secure the site.
- jwandborg 5y ago
  Isn't Belarus a dictatorship? If so, that's such a nice thing for a dictator to do.
  - 8note 5y ago
    Self interest. Belarus is one of the places that will feel the worst effects if anything happens at chernobyl
- newsclues 5y ago
  The Russias attack Kiev came from Belarus. If Belarusian soldiers are involved that is a greater escalation that simply allowing Russia to invade another nation through their territory. Belarus being a Russian pawn at the moment anything is possible I guess
  - dillondoyle 5y ago
    I've read both reports that Belarusian military is in Ukraine, and also not. I can't find a legitimate top AP or similar report. The not sources seem to be repeating video put out from Russia so I wouldn't buy any side right now. Either way Belarus are defacto participants having done military drills, allowing tanks to move through their checkpoints into Russia. Regardless of whether they are or are not shooting right now, Belarus is 100% a pawn of Russia. That is the model Putin is trying to create in Ukraine.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  They are working as puppets for the Russians so they're essentially Russian invaders for the 90% estimation.
etiam 5y ago
Well put. Also, take the following with more than a grain of salt as I'm in no way really knowledgeable about such systems, but I would imagine both the area itself and temporarily disturbing it could be valuable as cover for nuclear weapons. One valuable tool for keeping track of them involves detecting and analyzing escaped isotope traces, and that's going to be harder to pick out and make sense of against that noisy background. As I understand it, nuclear weaponry still features prominently in Russia's military doctrine and it's worth noting that not only the military but Russia's whole citizenry have been trained and prepared for nuclear fallout, to a much greater extent than most nations seem to prioritize today. In addition to artillery I imagine for instance certain kinds of anti-air systems might be attractive to put on a site like that. Any further suggestions? They could have taken weeks to bring equipment in during the "military exercise" with Lukashenko's troops, so I guess few things are truly off the table.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  "could be valuable as cover for nuclear weapons" You can't hide a nuclear blast, we have satellites in orbit that detect the flash. Chech the vela incident - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident "Russia's whole citizenry have been trained and prepared for nuclear fallout, to a much greater extent than most nations seem to prioritize today." That's not been the case for like 40 years
  - seizethegdgap 5y ago
    I believe etiam means a higher level of background radiation means it's easier to move nuclear weapons, not use them.
    - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
      They are not detectable anyway - if you put a nuclear warhead in a truck, there is no way to detect it from a plane or a satellite, In fact you probably could put a nuclear bomb inside a lead-lined shipping container and send it from China to US, across all US railways, and back across the world on another ship, and probably no-one would ever know. Also why would Russia move nukes by land through chernobil, when they have bombers and complete control of the airspace?

yaris 5y ago

From some russian sources I’ve read that Chernobyl has been taken by Belarus soldiers, not russians. Because Belarus guys are sensitive to anything going on around Chernobyl and want to secure the site.

jwandborg 5y ago
Isn't Belarus a dictatorship? If so, that's such a nice thing for a dictator to do.
- 8note 5y ago
  Self interest. Belarus is one of the places that will feel the worst effects if anything happens at chernobyl
newsclues 5y ago
The Russias attack Kiev came from Belarus. If Belarusian soldiers are involved that is a greater escalation that simply allowing Russia to invade another nation through their territory. Belarus being a Russian pawn at the moment anything is possible I guess
- dillondoyle 5y ago
  I've read both reports that Belarusian military is in Ukraine, and also not. I can't find a legitimate top AP or similar report. The not sources seem to be repeating video put out from Russia so I wouldn't buy any side right now. Either way Belarus are defacto participants having done military drills, allowing tanks to move through their checkpoints into Russia. Regardless of whether they are or are not shooting right now, Belarus is 100% a pawn of Russia. That is the model Putin is trying to create in Ukraine.
stjohnswarts 5y ago
They are working as puppets for the Russians so they're essentially Russian invaders for the 90% estimation.

etiam 5y ago

Well put. Also, take the following with more than a grain of salt as I'm in no way really knowledgeable about such systems, but I would imagine both the area itself and temporarily disturbing it could be valuable as cover for nuclear weapons. One valuable tool for keeping track of them involves detecting and analyzing escaped isotope traces, and that's going to be harder to pick out and make sense of against that noisy background. As I understand it, nuclear weaponry still features prominently in Russia's military doctrine and it's worth noting that not only the military but Russia's whole citizenry have been trained and prepared for nuclear fallout, to a much greater extent than most nations seem to prioritize today. In addition to artillery I imagine for instance certain kinds of anti-air systems might be attractive to put on a site like that. Any further suggestions? They could have taken weeks to bring equipment in during the "military exercise" with Lukashenko's troops, so I guess few things are truly off the table.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago
"could be valuable as cover for nuclear weapons" You can't hide a nuclear blast, we have satellites in orbit that detect the flash. Chech the vela incident - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident "Russia's whole citizenry have been trained and prepared for nuclear fallout, to a much greater extent than most nations seem to prioritize today." That's not been the case for like 40 years
- seizethegdgap 5y ago
  I believe etiam means a higher level of background radiation means it's easier to move nuclear weapons, not use them.
  - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
    They are not detectable anyway - if you put a nuclear warhead in a truck, there is no way to detect it from a plane or a satellite, In fact you probably could put a nuclear bomb inside a lead-lined shipping container and send it from China to US, across all US railways, and back across the world on another ship, and probably no-one would ever know. Also why would Russia move nukes by land through chernobil, when they have bombers and complete control of the airspace?