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Poland is ready to take 2M Ukrainians, same for Romania, the country made an announcement today they can take 500k refugees today. Migrants are allowed to cross

by agilob 5y ago

Poland is ready to take 2M Ukrainians, same for Romania, the country made an announcement today they can take 500k refugees today. Migrants are allowed to cross the border on any ID, even expired will be accepted.

yrgulation 5y ago
When i called romania’s border police to ask if ukrainians can enter without a visa they said those with biometric passports dont need a visa but actually said those without need a visa. When i asked if visas can be given on the spot they simply hang up on me. Maybe something changed but for an eu and nato member state romania has a lot to work on. Edit: typo.
- 323 5y ago
  I wouldn't put too much value in those phone-calls. It was the same with Covid rules, you got different responses based on exactly who you'd call, confusion all around, and authorities contradicting each other. A romanian article from 1 hour ago says that as you said, with biometric passport you don't need a visa, but it also says that with a non-biometric passport you will receive a 3 month tourist visa on the spot. It also says that you can enter without any kind of passport at all, according to international refugee rules. But you might be handled different, liked being forced to go to a refugee camp (don't know). https://romania.europalibera.org/a/acte-intrare-romania-ucraina/31722975.html https://romania.europalibera.org/a/acte-intrare-romania-ucra...
  - yrgulation 5y ago
    Great thank you. Albeit the rudeness of romanian public servants appears to be well established and has nothing to do with preparedness.
    - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
      >rudeness of romanian public servants appears to be well established and has nothing to do with preparedness. Thier rudeness is legendary in Romania. I assumed it's because we are a poorer country with a rough past that traumatized a generation, but I've seen equal levels of rudeness sometimes from the public servants in Austria and those earn way more than their Romanian counterparts and get much better benefits and working conditions from the state and didn't go through famine 35 years ago. So assholes will be assholes regardless, just because they know they can't be fired, and are usually venting their personal failures and frustrations on those in weaker positions who can't fight back (foreigners, immigrants), just like how you see people being rude to employees in the service sector. Anyway, I hope you find safety and know that you're welcome in Romania.
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      It never was any different, in my experience. But I've also experienced far worse. In the USA for instance.
jimbob45 5y ago
Ukrainian refugees are high-quality and won’t require arm-twisting to take. I would expect countries to fight over who gets them.
- vmception 5y ago
  high-quality?
  - malandrew 5y ago
    Better educated. Less likely to contribute to poverty in the accepting country. More culturally compatible with the receiving country. When you accept refugees you’re also accepting the pain of side effects from accepting those refugees. Refugees from some places come with fewer side effects depending on compatibility with the host country and skills and education of the refugees.
    - vmception 5y ago
      their phrasing is a problem. your elaboration is accurate and fine.
      - homonculus1 5y ago
        The original phrasing was fine.
        dwaltrip 5y ago
        It's definitely questionable to call entire people groups "high-quality" and "low-quality"... I think they were just speaking very abruptly. But a different phrase would be better.
      - fuzzer37 5y ago
        Sounded fine to me.
    - picsao 5y ago
justin66 5y ago
> Migrants are allowed to cross the border on any ID, even expired will be accepted. Wow. I guess you're really screwed if, in the process of leaving everything behind and fleeing for your life, you lose your ID.
- agilob 5y ago
  And what's the process to get to your country for war refugees?
- jacquesm 5y ago
  If your apartment building gets blown up then that's the least of your problems.
  - justin66 5y ago
    The point was (I thought obviously) that it would not be atypical for someone fleeing for their life to both be an ideal candidate for asylum and to not have their ID.
efrafa 5y ago
Slovakia is letting everybody in, even with expired passport. You also can travel for free via train if you have ukrainian passport.

by agilob 5y ago

yrgulation 5y ago

When i called romania’s border police to ask if ukrainians can enter without a visa they said those with biometric passports dont need a visa but actually said those without need a visa. When i asked if visas can be given on the spot they simply hang up on me. Maybe something changed but for an eu and nato member state romania has a lot to work on. Edit: typo.

323 5y ago
I wouldn't put too much value in those phone-calls. It was the same with Covid rules, you got different responses based on exactly who you'd call, confusion all around, and authorities contradicting each other. A romanian article from 1 hour ago says that as you said, with biometric passport you don't need a visa, but it also says that with a non-biometric passport you will receive a 3 month tourist visa on the spot. It also says that you can enter without any kind of passport at all, according to international refugee rules. But you might be handled different, liked being forced to go to a refugee camp (don't know). https://romania.europalibera.org/a/acte-intrare-romania-ucraina/31722975.html https://romania.europalibera.org/a/acte-intrare-romania-ucra...
- yrgulation 5y ago
  Great thank you. Albeit the rudeness of romanian public servants appears to be well established and has nothing to do with preparedness.
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    >rudeness of romanian public servants appears to be well established and has nothing to do with preparedness. Thier rudeness is legendary in Romania. I assumed it's because we are a poorer country with a rough past that traumatized a generation, but I've seen equal levels of rudeness sometimes from the public servants in Austria and those earn way more than their Romanian counterparts and get much better benefits and working conditions from the state and didn't go through famine 35 years ago. So assholes will be assholes regardless, just because they know they can't be fired, and are usually venting their personal failures and frustrations on those in weaker positions who can't fight back (foreigners, immigrants), just like how you see people being rude to employees in the service sector. Anyway, I hope you find safety and know that you're welcome in Romania.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    It never was any different, in my experience. But I've also experienced far worse. In the USA for instance.

jimbob45 5y ago

Ukrainian refugees are high-quality and won’t require arm-twisting to take. I would expect countries to fight over who gets them.

vmception 5y ago
high-quality?
- malandrew 5y ago
  Better educated. Less likely to contribute to poverty in the accepting country. More culturally compatible with the receiving country. When you accept refugees you’re also accepting the pain of side effects from accepting those refugees. Refugees from some places come with fewer side effects depending on compatibility with the host country and skills and education of the refugees.
  - vmception 5y ago
    their phrasing is a problem. your elaboration is accurate and fine.
    - homonculus1 5y ago
      The original phrasing was fine.
      - dwaltrip 5y ago
        It's definitely questionable to call entire people groups "high-quality" and "low-quality"... I think they were just speaking very abruptly. But a different phrase would be better.
    - fuzzer37 5y ago
      Sounded fine to me.
  - picsao 5y ago

justin66 5y ago

> Migrants are allowed to cross the border on any ID, even expired will be accepted. Wow. I guess you're really screwed if, in the process of leaving everything behind and fleeing for your life, you lose your ID.

agilob 5y ago
And what's the process to get to your country for war refugees?
jacquesm 5y ago
If your apartment building gets blown up then that's the least of your problems.
- justin66 5y ago
  The point was (I thought obviously) that it would not be atypical for someone fleeing for their life to both be an ideal candidate for asylum and to not have their ID.

efrafa 5y ago

Slovakia is letting everybody in, even with expired passport. You also can travel for free via train if you have ukrainian passport.