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Russians came from Belarus and with their tanks disrupt the radioactive soil and create dust [1]. The internal systems and the reactors themselves are in nomina
by nuccy 5y ago
Russians came from Belarus and with their tanks disrupt the radioactive soil and create dust [1]. The internal systems and the reactors themselves are in nominal state without changes.
1. https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-says-chernobyl-radiation-levels-increasing-after-russia-invasion-2022-2 https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-says-chernobyl-radia...
- awb 5y agoWhat are the environmental / health risks of this radioactive dust getting kicked up?
- nuccy 5y agoUnless there is a strong wind it likely will settle back, especially since it is a thick forest around the station.
- ornornor 5y agoI don’t know about where you live but here in Europe there have been storms warnings with pretty strong winds in the last week. Not a meteorologist and I have no idea how that would impact radioactive dust spread.
- awb 5y agoAre the prevailing winds are typically West to East?
- ornornor 5y agoAccording to https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/historyclimate/weatherarchive https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/historyclimate/weathera... they're blowing from the West to the East so it's blowing from Europe towards Pripyat, so at least there is that.
- deutschewelle 5y ago
- Denvercoder9 5y ago> One thing I understand about Western European culture is that they will never tell you no outright as it is rude to do so. Any sort of hesitancy is to be construed as a no and unlike America/East Germany or Scandinavian countries tough to get a straight answer most of the time. This is a ridiculous overgeneralization. If you compare e.g. the Dutch with the Southern U.S., you'll find the Dutch are much more eager to directly tell it how it is.
- deutschewelle 5y agowell as long as the contrasts are obvious, generalizing was the intent
- swamp40 5y ago>> if Russia is kicked off SWIFT, it would be removing any sort of restraint they've displayed so far. I don't think they care much about that. They have already assumed they would be. There are several other options for them. It most hurts Europe and their investments/payments, as well as our intelligence tracking of high net worth individuals.
- leephillips 5y ago> There is blame on both sides Say what now? > One thing I understand about Western European culture is that they will never tell you no outright as it is rude to do so. Generally speaking, no, this is not one thing you understand about W. E. culture.
- chefkoch 5y agoYou have never been to western europe? Berlin is famous for this.
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- G3rn0ti 5y agoThe thing with radioactivity is: it may be invisible but it is luckily very well detectable. Gamma ray spectrometers are super sensitive but that does not mean the detected levels are actually posing a threat to humans.
- avs733 5y agonice of them to leave breadcrumbs everywhere.
- beebmam 5y agoIt depends what you mean by radioactivity. There are particles that rarely ever interact with matter, like the neutrinos, and are virtually impossible to detect except in highly sensitive experimental conditions.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoI think in the context of the conversations it's obvious that we're talking about the kinds of radiation that are dangerous to animals (including humans)
- kergonath 5y agoSure. The nice thing with these particles is that they do not cause any health concern. Luckily, because we are constantly bombarded with billions of them. What is relevant here is either alpha (stopped by a couple of cm of air), beta (stopped by a sheet of plastic, heavy clothing, or a couple of micrometers of metal) and gamma radiation. These are the radiations we measure to monitor fallout.
- yumraj 5y agoSo, the Russian soldiers are all probably breathing this dust and their equipment will spread it to where ever they deploy in Ukraine? That doesn't sound good at all.
- pjc50 5y agoThere's an invasion on, nothing about it sounds good!
- ajsnigrutin 5y agoConsidering that they're mostly just passing by, and that the levels are not really high, it won't be that bad. I didn't do the math, but the radiation levels for driving past there, or staying there for a day or two, would probably be very low, and comparable to a lot of other stuff we do without thinking (plane rides, xrays etc.)
- temac 5y agoThey will breath the dust and get some internal radiation though. Not really a problem for the others if they move after that, but not very good for them.
- connordoner 5y agoOne might argue that’s a price you pay when murdering innocent civilians in land that isn’t yours, no?
- yumraj 5y agoYeah, but Putin's not the one breathing it - the foot soldiers are.
- chasil 5y agoI am drawn to the words of Stephen Decatur. "In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong." I am sure there are many perspectives tonight with the same focus. Perhaps it is a great impediment to what must be done for our species, but it is hard to let go.
- Eduard 5y agoAccording to https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/ukraine/chernobyl/historic https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/ukraine/chernobyl/histor... , there was light rain in Chernobyl since Thursday. This should reduce the dust hypothesis, no?
- ch4s3 5y agoIt depends on the particular isotopes, most aren't water soluble but some would precipitate out of the air on rain. So it's hard to say.
- topdancing 5y ago> Russians came from Belarus and with their tanks disrupt the radioactive soil and create dust Dust from soil doesn't explain why the readings from sensors around the reactors themselves has been sharply increasing over the last couple of days: - https://mobile.twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1497011166341599274 https://mobile.twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/149701116634159... - https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps
- jupp0r 5y agoIt's wet soil, there is no dust.
- eigelc 5y agoBut how likely is this? 39 years of weather and you drive for a few hours about and the dust from your vechicles raised the radiation levels? It’s winter now and I can’t imagine dust is raised so easily. Either the amount was not significant or something else happened.