But Ukraine hasn't joined NATO and until recently Ukrainian opinion was against it. Of course they very much want to join now, but that is a situation of Putin'

But Ukraine hasn't joined NATO and until recently Ukrainian opinion was against it. Of course they very much want to join now, but that is a situation of Putin's own making. But anyway, I'm confused, because you're saying not only countries but cities should have self-determination, but ALSO Putin gets a veto over Ukrainian policy?