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> The reality is that whether the war in Iraq was justified or not is a completely separate discussion, and the US going to war with Iraq (whether justified or
by Helmut10001 5y ago
> The reality is that whether the war in Iraq was justified or not is a completely separate discussion, and the US going to war with Iraq (whether justified or not) is not a justification for Russia going to war with Ukraine.
This. If all we do is justify our current actions with the past, then every country can find some historic argument for invading another country. So yes, US in Iraq means nothing for Russia attacking Ukraine, it is a red herring by Putin propaganda. It is just hard or impossible to convince those who believe in it.
- env123 5y agoNot this. Russia sees Ukraine joining NATO as a security concern - whether true or not, so in their view they must pre-emptively strike Morally speaking, it's not justified for humans to keep making war Objectively speaking, it's justified from Russia's point of view > If all we do is justify our current actions with the past, then every country can find some historic argument for invading another country Unfortunately, history repeats itself because human nature is difficult to change, so that's likely to happen for centuries
- foxfluff 5y ago> Objectively speaking, it's justified from Russia's point of view That is such absurd wording. It almost sounds like you're trying to make an argument but you aren't really. You can always put it like that. "I see Russia as a security concern. Objectively speaking from my point of view Russia is a threat and we should pre-emptively nuke Moscow. It's justified from my point of view."