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That clearly reads to me as cynical admiration of the strategy, not support for its actual execution. And no those aren’t the same thing.

by psyc 5y ago

onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago
And footage from a Wednesday fundraiser in Florida showed Trump calling Putin "smart" for moving in on Ukraine "for $2 worth of sanctions. Source: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1082954761/republicans-are-condemning-putin-for-the-invasion-of-ukraine-and-criticizing-bid https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1082954761/republicans-are-co... Link to footage: https://twitter.com/american_bridge/status/1496682759208775683?s=21 https://twitter.com/american_bridge/status/14966827592087756... If admiration, cheerleading, and calling an invader "smart" - isn't support... What is?
- psyc 5y ago
  I’m sorry but you’re swirling separate concepts together as well as misunderstanding Trump’s persona. I have uncles who talk exactly like this because it makes them sound worldly. Like it’s what they would have done if they had the motive, because they’re smart too. Admiration is not support. Mature people can admire their opponents. Support would be saying or suggesting that Putin is justified in some higher sense than avarice, that his motive is admirable, since you asked. Trump is obviously detached and breezy here. Irreverently honest, like a comedian doing a bit. Better it make you think, than make you mad at the messenger.
  - onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago
    There's no distinction. If you admire someone and they did the smart thing - it means you would have done it, too, or else you're stupid. If you would've done it - you obviously support it.
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  - themacguffinman 5y ago
    If they had the motive? We don't really need to guess because Trump plainly suggests that America should do the same thing on its border with Mexico with the implied motive of solving the immigration crisis. The Trump quote that was posted is slightly incomplete: > And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper…We could use that on our southern border Oh, I can believe that Trump is being irreverently honest, just like your uncles, but I doubt your uncles are vying to be re-elected into a position that gives them the power to do such a thing.
- wrycoder 5y ago
  >If admiration, cheerleading, and calling an invader "smart" - isn't support... What is? It was sarcasm. Here's what he said: Speaking with conservative podcaster Buck Sexton, the former president said: 'I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, "This is genius,"' Trump recalled. 'Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine -- Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful.' 'I said, "How smart is that?'" the former U.S. president continued. 'And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s the strongest peace force… We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right.'

That clearly reads to me as cynical admiration of the strategy, not support for its actual execution. And no those aren’t the same thing.

by psyc 5y ago

That clearly reads to me as cynical admiration of the strategy, not support for its actual execution. And no those aren’t the same thing.

onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago

And footage from a Wednesday fundraiser in Florida showed Trump calling Putin "smart" for moving in on Ukraine "for $2 worth of sanctions. Source: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1082954761/republicans-are-condemning-putin-for-the-invasion-of-ukraine-and-criticizing-bid https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1082954761/republicans-are-co... Link to footage: https://twitter.com/american_bridge/status/1496682759208775683?s=21 https://twitter.com/american_bridge/status/14966827592087756... If admiration, cheerleading, and calling an invader "smart" - isn't support... What is?

psyc 5y ago
I’m sorry but you’re swirling separate concepts together as well as misunderstanding Trump’s persona. I have uncles who talk exactly like this because it makes them sound worldly. Like it’s what they would have done if they had the motive, because they’re smart too. Admiration is not support. Mature people can admire their opponents. Support would be saying or suggesting that Putin is justified in some higher sense than avarice, that his motive is admirable, since you asked. Trump is obviously detached and breezy here. Irreverently honest, like a comedian doing a bit. Better it make you think, than make you mad at the messenger.
- onlyrealcuzzo 5y ago
  There's no distinction. If you admire someone and they did the smart thing - it means you would have done it, too, or else you're stupid. If you would've done it - you obviously support it.
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- themacguffinman 5y ago
  If they had the motive? We don't really need to guess because Trump plainly suggests that America should do the same thing on its border with Mexico with the implied motive of solving the immigration crisis. The Trump quote that was posted is slightly incomplete: > And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper…We could use that on our southern border Oh, I can believe that Trump is being irreverently honest, just like your uncles, but I doubt your uncles are vying to be re-elected into a position that gives them the power to do such a thing.
wrycoder 5y ago
>If admiration, cheerleading, and calling an invader "smart" - isn't support... What is? It was sarcasm. Here's what he said: Speaking with conservative podcaster Buck Sexton, the former president said: 'I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, "This is genius,"' Trump recalled. 'Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine -- Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful.' 'I said, "How smart is that?'" the former U.S. president continued. 'And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s the strongest peace force… We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right.'