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>Both Russia, Ukraine and Serbia have a Neo Nazi problem So does the US. But in the US, neo-Nazis are not in our government, the Congress and in top military p

by Jerry2 5y ago

>Both Russia, Ukraine and Serbia have a Neo Nazi problem So does the US. But in the US, neo-Nazis are not in our government, the Congress and in top military positions. They are extremely powerful in the Ukraine and are dictating policy.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> They are extremely powerful in the Ukraine and are dictating policy. No, they aren't, that's pure propaganda from Russia, which, ironically, uses international neonazis as a means of undermining other states around the world. https://www.justsecurity.org/68420/confronting-russias-role-in-transnational-white-supremacist-extremism/ https://www.justsecurity.org/68420/confronting-russias-role-...
- rbanffy 5y ago
  Ironically, in the case of Ukraine, it's the US who turns a blind eye to the neonazis. As they kind of do in Brazil, having helped Bolsonaro to reach the presidency, BTW.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > Ironically, in the case of Ukraine, it's the US who turns a blind eye to the neonazis. No, it doesn't. There simply aren't any in positions of significant policy influence. (The US has—although that has changed a little bit since Jan. 6, 2021 for...reasons—historically largely turned a blind eye to the much more extensive influence of neonazis in the US, where they have, among other things, deep and extensive peentration of the internal and external security services, which is one reason the US has been especially vulnerable to their use as international agents of influence by Russia under Putin.)
    - rbanffy 5y ago
      > There simply aren't any in positions of significant policy influence. They wouldn't, because it wouldn't solve any problem for them. The current Ukraine government is friendly towards the US and the neonazi militias were doing the job of suppressing insurgents, largely with support from said government. The US had more than a little influence in the replacement of the previous, Russia-friendly government.
sofixa 5y ago
> But in the US, neo-Nazis are not in our government, the Congress and in top military positions Are you sure about that?

by Jerry2 5y ago

dragonwriter 5y ago

> They are extremely powerful in the Ukraine and are dictating policy. No, they aren't, that's pure propaganda from Russia, which, ironically, uses international neonazis as a means of undermining other states around the world. https://www.justsecurity.org/68420/confronting-russias-role-in-transnational-white-supremacist-extremism/ https://www.justsecurity.org/68420/confronting-russias-role-...

rbanffy 5y ago
Ironically, in the case of Ukraine, it's the US who turns a blind eye to the neonazis. As they kind of do in Brazil, having helped Bolsonaro to reach the presidency, BTW.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > Ironically, in the case of Ukraine, it's the US who turns a blind eye to the neonazis. No, it doesn't. There simply aren't any in positions of significant policy influence. (The US has—although that has changed a little bit since Jan. 6, 2021 for...reasons—historically largely turned a blind eye to the much more extensive influence of neonazis in the US, where they have, among other things, deep and extensive peentration of the internal and external security services, which is one reason the US has been especially vulnerable to their use as international agents of influence by Russia under Putin.)
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    > There simply aren't any in positions of significant policy influence. They wouldn't, because it wouldn't solve any problem for them. The current Ukraine government is friendly towards the US and the neonazi militias were doing the job of suppressing insurgents, largely with support from said government. The US had more than a little influence in the replacement of the previous, Russia-friendly government.

sofixa 5y ago

> But in the US, neo-Nazis are not in our government, the Congress and in top military positions Are you sure about that?