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> Napoleon and the Nazis both crossed through that region on their way to Russia Hitler yes. Napoleon no. The French neither attacked nor retreated through wh
by lurquer 5y ago
> Napoleon and the Nazis both crossed through that region on their way to Russia
Hitler yes.
Napoleon no.
The French neither attacked nor retreated through what is now Ukraine.
- wolverine876 5y agoNote that I hedged with, "through that region" (because I didn't have time to lookup the route). So which way did they go?
- oblio 5y agoCurrent Belarus, North of Ukraine.
- c-smile 5y agoThat naive geography positioning reasoning is far from reality. From that point of view Belorussia is more valuable. That "Mystery of Russian Soul" lies among the lines of "Kiev - mother of Russian cities" (term of 12th century Primary Chronicle) and too many other historical facts. Like Wild Steppe (south of Ukraine) were fought for and liberated from Crimean Khanate by Russian Army. Modern Kherson, Nikolayev, Sevastopol, and Ekaterinoslav(Dnipro/Dnepropetrovsk), were established by Gregory Potemkin (Empress Catherine times) and populated by peasants from Russian heartlands - Tambov, Ryazan, Pskov, etc. All that is well known and well remembered facts by Russian public. So we should not expect that Russian people will be so against all that. If in doubt then see the above.
- wolverine876 5y agoThese nationalistic narratives are means, not causes. Russia wants to control Ukraine, so they teach these narratives to create public support. It's done in many places about many things. You can see people on HN repeating them about their countries.