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Actually no. I am not obsessed with any sins at all and I am not fallen. I just can't stand hypocrisy. "When Xi decides to invade Taiwan Guantanamo will probab

Actually no. I am not obsessed with any sins at all and I am not fallen. I just can't stand hypocrisy. "When Xi decides to invade Taiwan Guantanamo will probably still be open. Does that mean we should not do our best to keep that invasion from happening, or to make the PRC pay as high a price as feasible for their actions?" So why not stop our hypocrisy now and close guantanamo. End our alliances with murderous psychopaths. Etc. Then we will have more credibility, when we deal with all those other murderous psychopaths. (there are plenty of them, I know) But when we fight one evil overloard, while supporting another one, because he side with us - how can anyone in the world really believe, we care and fight for democracy and not rather our own selfish strategic goals? This is what I am hoping to achieve, but don't get me wrong, I have no illusions about that. Self-rightousness is as strong as it ever was. But yes. I am fully aware that it is a privilege and it is a difference, that I can say all of this here and not over there. And I do not want to loose that right, but rather want the whole world to have that right as well. I just want to go a different path, than the usual one, which has not really worked out so far in the past.

Ourgon 5y ago
> But yes. I am fully aware that it is a privilege and it is a difference, that I can say all of this here and not over there Indeed, we can, for now. There are some chinks in this armour - Trudeau in Canada activating the Emergencies Act to quell a protest which came a bit too close to the target, increasing censorship through an unholy alliance between industry and government, an unhealthy fawning over the endless possibilities offered by the social credit score system as implemented in China - but for now the bastion still holds. > And I do not want to loose that right, Nor do most of us, bar those who long for the chance to muzzle their ideological opponents - viz. Trudeau in Canada and his ilk, everywhere. > but rather want the whole world to have that right as well. Ah, but there you make a mistake. The whole world does not want to have this right - or at least they have been raised in societies which see "our way of life" in a wholly different way. What "we" gained in freedom to express ourselves any way we want, we gradually lost in things which bound us together - clan/tribal/national pride, religious affiliation, sense of purpose. Our freedom has its price in that it is up to the individual to find acceptable replacements for these factors with differing degrees of success - some find it in financial success, some look for it in political/ideological fervour, lately many people are looking for it in some aspect of identity and the related politics. Why, ever, would you want to leave your known position in the clan, with the elders to tell you what is good, the imam or preacher or priest to tell you what is holy and your future as predictable as that of your ancestors? > I just want to go a different path, than the usual one, which has not really worked out so far in the past. What will you do on that "different path" when an opponent comes up to you and holds a gun to your head? To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. When the man with the gun in his hand comes to threaten you you either fight him, or you submit [1]. [1] and no, this is not a call for open war against Putin, for those who wondered. That time may come but we're not there yet.
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  "What will you do on that "different path" when an opponent comes up to you and holds a gun to your head"" Knock him down, if the situation allows it, otherwise give in, as long as the gun is pointed to my head. I never said flowers are the only option.

Ourgon 5y ago

> But yes. I am fully aware that it is a privilege and it is a difference, that I can say all of this here and not over there Indeed, we can, for now. There are some chinks in this armour - Trudeau in Canada activating the Emergencies Act to quell a protest which came a bit too close to the target, increasing censorship through an unholy alliance between industry and government, an unhealthy fawning over the endless possibilities offered by the social credit score system as implemented in China - but for now the bastion still holds. > And I do not want to loose that right, Nor do most of us, bar those who long for the chance to muzzle their ideological opponents - viz. Trudeau in Canada and his ilk, everywhere. > but rather want the whole world to have that right as well. Ah, but there you make a mistake. The whole world does not want to have this right - or at least they have been raised in societies which see "our way of life" in a wholly different way. What "we" gained in freedom to express ourselves any way we want, we gradually lost in things which bound us together - clan/tribal/national pride, religious affiliation, sense of purpose. Our freedom has its price in that it is up to the individual to find acceptable replacements for these factors with differing degrees of success - some find it in financial success, some look for it in political/ideological fervour, lately many people are looking for it in some aspect of identity and the related politics. Why, ever, would you want to leave your known position in the clan, with the elders to tell you what is good, the imam or preacher or priest to tell you what is holy and your future as predictable as that of your ancestors? > I just want to go a different path, than the usual one, which has not really worked out so far in the past. What will you do on that "different path" when an opponent comes up to you and holds a gun to your head? To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. When the man with the gun in his hand comes to threaten you you either fight him, or you submit [1]. [1] and no, this is not a call for open war against Putin, for those who wondered. That time may come but we're not there yet.

hutzlibu 5y ago
"What will you do on that "different path" when an opponent comes up to you and holds a gun to your head"" Knock him down, if the situation allows it, otherwise give in, as long as the gun is pointed to my head. I never said flowers are the only option.