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France was invaded because the liberals in France and UK refused to act against Hitler when he first invaded Poland and Austria, or when he and Mussolini suppor

France was invaded because the liberals in France and UK refused to act against Hitler when he first invaded Poland and Austria, or when he and Mussolini supported Franco's coup d'etat in Spain in 1936, crushing a popular anarchist revolution and destroying any notion of hope across Europe for the decade to come. France/UK argued that helping elected governments (or people's militias) against their invader could ignite war spreading throughout Europe, so they would rather not irritate these angry dictators. Where did this strategy get us? It's hard to imagine just how different Europe (and probably the rest of the world, for better or for worse) would be today if the western powers had intervened at that time. It's also worth noting already at the time, social-liberal democracies from the USA to France were very unwelcoming of refugees from the nazi regime. Let's make sure to make them welcome no matter what our governments say, there's quite empty housing for everyone!

toyg 5y ago
> France was invaded because the liberals in France and UK refused to act against Hitler when he first invaded Poland and Austria No, France was invaded because they didn't shore up their Northern border. > Let's make sure to make them welcome no matter what our governments say, there's quite empty housing for everyone! I absolutely agree, except I reckon this is the time for the Visegrad bloc to take them, for once.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  > No, France was invaded because they didn't shore up their Northern border. Technically correct, yet completely misses the point. If you don't want to be bullied, don't let someone bully anyone else. To be clear, i'm extremely hostile to any colonial Empire (Russia/USA/France/etc) and i'm certainly not a fan of military intervention. My point is not to compare modern Russia to the nazis, but rather that this laissez-faire policy in regards to military invasions of sovereign territories doesn't exactly have a history of leading to a more peaceful situation overall (see also: France in Mali, USA in Iraq/Afghanistan, China in Tibet, Turkey in Bakur).

toyg 5y ago

> France was invaded because the liberals in France and UK refused to act against Hitler when he first invaded Poland and Austria No, France was invaded because they didn't shore up their Northern border. > Let's make sure to make them welcome no matter what our governments say, there's quite empty housing for everyone! I absolutely agree, except I reckon this is the time for the Visegrad bloc to take them, for once.

southerntofu 5y ago
> No, France was invaded because they didn't shore up their Northern border. Technically correct, yet completely misses the point. If you don't want to be bullied, don't let someone bully anyone else. To be clear, i'm extremely hostile to any colonial Empire (Russia/USA/France/etc) and i'm certainly not a fan of military intervention. My point is not to compare modern Russia to the nazis, but rather that this laissez-faire policy in regards to military invasions of sovereign territories doesn't exactly have a history of leading to a more peaceful situation overall (see also: France in Mali, USA in Iraq/Afghanistan, China in Tibet, Turkey in Bakur).