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I was already under the impression that the GrapheneOS developer(s) were overworked, but still they insist in doing everything themselves because no other proje

I was already under the impression that the GrapheneOS developer(s) were overworked, but still they insist in doing everything themselves because no other project is good enough I have been using for the past year, and the 'advanced' user experience is not great. Updates are forced to the latest version of android, does not seem safe, and definitely does not feel stable, less customization than other roms, a bit aggressive towards root I will probably go back to lineageos microg f-droid and some hardened configurations F-Droid is provides invaluable service for android, privacy, open-source, android developers. GrapheneOS seems like an exercise in craziness a bit to extreme for me

lberrymage 5y ago
> they insist in doing everything themselves because no other project is good enough They are making an alternative store with better security and privacy properties than both Google Play and F-Droid. Why is this problematic? > Updates are forced to the latest version of Android On Pixels (the only devices GrapheneOS supports at the moment), only the latest version of Android receives security updates, so GrapheneOS must stay on the latest version to meet a baseline level of security. Each Android release also comes with security and privacy improvements along with further restrictions to the app sandbox. > does not seem safe How is GrapheneOS not safe? > does not feel stable? In what way? > less customization than other ROMs Yes, because GrapheneOS is not focused on customizability. This will be improved in Android 12L. > a bit aggressive towards root Root fundamentally cripples the Android security model, so being a security-focused project, this is the proper stance to take. Honestly I'm not sure why you're complaining about GrapheneOS in this thread. The article is written about F-Droid by someone who is not a GrapheneOS developer. They pointed out F-Droid's issues and mentioned upcoming alternatives without these issues. I don't see how one of those alternatives is an "exercise in craziness," nor how GrapheneOS itself is relevant to the article.

lberrymage 5y ago

> they insist in doing everything themselves because no other project is good enough They are making an alternative store with better security and privacy properties than both Google Play and F-Droid. Why is this problematic? > Updates are forced to the latest version of Android On Pixels (the only devices GrapheneOS supports at the moment), only the latest version of Android receives security updates, so GrapheneOS must stay on the latest version to meet a baseline level of security. Each Android release also comes with security and privacy improvements along with further restrictions to the app sandbox. > does not seem safe How is GrapheneOS not safe? > does not feel stable? In what way? > less customization than other ROMs Yes, because GrapheneOS is not focused on customizability. This will be improved in Android 12L. > a bit aggressive towards root Root fundamentally cripples the Android security model, so being a security-focused project, this is the proper stance to take. Honestly I'm not sure why you're complaining about GrapheneOS in this thread. The article is written about F-Droid by someone who is not a GrapheneOS developer. They pointed out F-Droid's issues and mentioned upcoming alternatives without these issues. I don't see how one of those alternatives is an "exercise in craziness," nor how GrapheneOS itself is relevant to the article.