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Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Ask the Dixie Chicks, phil donahue, etc. > To openly condemn the actions of the Russian governmen
by qiskit 5y ago
Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Ask the Dixie Chicks, phil donahue, etc.
> To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway.
Considering most of jetbrains business is in the West, to support the russian government would have had serious repercussions. Condemning the russian government is actually a smart business decision on their part.
JetBrains founders side with the West. Apple CEO sides with China. Saudi Arabia and Israel are our best friends. Wonder what the common denominator is.
- imwillofficial 5y agoMoney?
- rodgerd 5y ago> Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Only if you are so monumentally stupid as to equate being murdered by the state with people not buying your albums, I guess.
- mdoms 5y ago> Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Ask the Dixie Chicks, phil donahue, etc. Sorry, which Dixie Chicks were locked up, disappeared or physically assaulted by government officials?
- ushakov 5y ago> business decision the tweet isn’t about business, it’s to support families of JetBrains employees
- bin_bash 5y agohow could this impact JetBrains employees in Russia? I imagine I'd be worried if I were them
- adolph 5y agoThe band [formerly known as “Dixie Chicks”] said they had picked "that stupid name" as teenagers, and had wanted to change it for years; they said they were moved to change it when they saw the Confederate flag described as "the Dixie Swastika" on social media in June 2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicks
- tclancy 5y agoI think OP's (exceedingly poor) point was in reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicks#2003%E2%80%932005:_Iraq_War_comments_and_backlash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicks#2003%E2%80%932005:_...
- weakfish 5y ago
- s17n 5y agoThe dixie chicks were never poisoned, imprisoned, and tortured.
- inside6 5y ago
- alasdair_ 5y ago"serious repercussions" means things like being murdered by the state, imprisoned on trumped up charges and your family members being in physical danger. It does not mean "marginally decreased album sales".
- chupasaurus 5y agoA Soviet anecdote for you: An American meets a Russian and says: "You don't have a free speech! I can go to White House and shout that Reagan is fool!" Russian answers: "Well I can go to Red Square and shout that Reagan is fool too". As for JB: guess why they are Czech company for years now? My 2nd employer and my first step in IT career was an integrator who provided a few Russian government bodies the maintenance of their infra and developed systems as well as building datacenters for Gazprom, and a few years after the next year they had quite a big profit there was a criminal case opened and CEO was chilling for 2 years in London.
- steve76 5y ago
- stjohnswarts 5y agoHorrible comparison. In particular none of them faced government sanctions which are most likely in the pipeline now as Russia goes to war. No doubt dissent will be quashed harshly in the coming weeks. I wish all the people at JetBrains the best of luck with this. I don't think it was necessarily a good move on the part of leadership who I suspect aren't in Russia currently...