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Because you won't be able to buy your third Lake Tahoe vacation home with that attitude. Remote work eliminates a lot of career climbing opportunities and a me

Because you won't be able to buy your third Lake Tahoe vacation home with that attitude. Remote work eliminates a lot of career climbing opportunities and a meaningful class of tech workers depend on that.

thebradbain 5y ago
> Remote work eliminates a lot of career climbing opportunities Quite the opposite in my experience!
smoldesu 5y ago
"meaningful" might be a bit of a stretch, but I agree.
chrisseaton 5y ago
> Remote work eliminates a lot of career climbing opportunities I don't understand - do you think fully remote companies never promote anyone?
- potatolicious 5y ago
  I think the implication is that in a hybridized company the people who are there in-person will have a leg up on promotions over people who are fully-remote. I think this is pretty obviously true - even though I don't endorse the state of affairs. This is already true - even pre-pandemic those in remote offices far from HQ have a distinct advancement disadvantage vs. those who have face-time with senior leadership on the regular.
  - PickledHotdog 5y ago
    Are in-house promotions even that common these days? A lot of people's career advancement involves switching jobs
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      Depends on the company I guess. Where I work it's very common.
  - bravetraveler 5y ago
    While I do agree there is a certain bias here, let me offer an anecdote... I've been remote for years prior to the pandemic. I've found more advancement since. It's certainly from a disadvantaged position, not to imply otherwise. I attribute this more to my employer and personality - if something is wrong/broken I make it known Being essentially on the speed dial for everyone and maintaining this image of vocal participant has helped mitigate this. Fix a couple incidents in stellar fashion and the C suite starts to love your Slack alias
Apocryphon 5y ago
On the other hand, it makes it easier to become r/overemployed
garciasn 5y ago
An outdated mentality that isn't holding true in my case, from title to pay. YMMV.
geodel 5y ago
Well those people can always been in office. 95% of people in tech are just drones churning out same old CRUD service nth time. With the kind of saturation hitting in most tech jobs, even working China style 6-6-7 will not bring 10% more than their current compensation.

thebradbain 5y ago

> Remote work eliminates a lot of career climbing opportunities Quite the opposite in my experience!

smoldesu 5y ago

"meaningful" might be a bit of a stretch, but I agree.

chrisseaton 5y ago

> Remote work eliminates a lot of career climbing opportunities I don't understand - do you think fully remote companies never promote anyone?

potatolicious 5y ago
I think the implication is that in a hybridized company the people who are there in-person will have a leg up on promotions over people who are fully-remote. I think this is pretty obviously true - even though I don't endorse the state of affairs. This is already true - even pre-pandemic those in remote offices far from HQ have a distinct advancement disadvantage vs. those who have face-time with senior leadership on the regular.
- PickledHotdog 5y ago
  Are in-house promotions even that common these days? A lot of people's career advancement involves switching jobs
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    Depends on the company I guess. Where I work it's very common.
- bravetraveler 5y ago
  While I do agree there is a certain bias here, let me offer an anecdote... I've been remote for years prior to the pandemic. I've found more advancement since. It's certainly from a disadvantaged position, not to imply otherwise. I attribute this more to my employer and personality - if something is wrong/broken I make it known Being essentially on the speed dial for everyone and maintaining this image of vocal participant has helped mitigate this. Fix a couple incidents in stellar fashion and the C suite starts to love your Slack alias

Apocryphon 5y ago

On the other hand, it makes it easier to become r/overemployed

garciasn 5y ago

An outdated mentality that isn't holding true in my case, from title to pay. YMMV.

geodel 5y ago

Well those people can always been in office. 95% of people in tech are just drones churning out same old CRUD service nth time. With the kind of saturation hitting in most tech jobs, even working China style 6-6-7 will not bring 10% more than their current compensation.