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Al Jazeera reports dozens of casualties already: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/24/russia-ukraine-invasion-casualties-death-toll https://www.aljazeera.co

• Mikeb85 5y ago
  Not to deminish that they're people but that's basically a weekend in Chicago... For a "full scale invasion" it's nothing and would indicate that there won't be much resistance.
  • mikeyouse 5y ago
    Gross.
  • jacquesm 5y ago
    If you don't want to diminish it, why do you diminish it? When Germany invaded NL for the first little bit there were not many casualties, those came later.
    • Mikeb85 5y ago
      Because the media and everyone make it sound like it's about to be trench warfare and then urban warfare for years and the original parent I responded to implied soldiers would be gunning down babushkas... It's bad but it's obviously modern warfare and there likely won't be massive casualties because the Ukrainians aren't marching to die since the west already abandoned them. We were told Russia would be rolling tanks through the mud and fighting in trenches... Lots of propaganda. And an hour ago I watched Biden say sanctions are as bad as missiles SMH... Anyhow, the west abandoned Ukraine, I really doubt too many Ukrainians are eager to die for nothing.
      • jacquesm 5y ago
        > I really doubt too many Ukrainians are eager to die for nothing As in: you don't believe that Ukrainians will defend their country?
        • mikeyouse 5y ago
          Just the most absurd line of argument from OP -- there are tons of videos of dead Ukrainian soldiers, burned out tanks/APCs, videos of indiscriminate rocket attacks on civilian centers, jets firing on residential buildings, cruise missiles striking civilian airports, at least one video of a child on a bicycle being hit with a mortar. Because the confirmed number of military KIA in the first hours of the war is only "several dozen" it's "a weekend in Chicago". Just incredibly ghoulish.
          • jacquesm 5y ago
            Precisely. It is revolting some of the sentiments on HN regarding this make me sick. To believe that Ukrainians will just let their country be run over is naive, what bugs me is that they are left to hang in the wind rather than that they receive help, that's the one thing that Putin really fears right now judging by his performance earlier, clearly aimed at persuading the public in the West that he would rain nuclear destruction on any country that decides to interfere.
            • toyg 5y ago
              Well, I'll be frank: between nuclear holocaust and Ukraine going back to 1989, I pick the latter. Sucks to be Ukrainian right now, I know, but this is the time to be smart: France was overrun in a month too, and looked pretty pacific under occupation for a pretty long time, but eventually...
              • jacquesm 5y ago
                Ok, then what about Poland, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia? Good enough to supply troops to NATO, not good enough to be defended when it matters? They should go back to 1989 as well?
      • richardfey 5y ago
        There are russian tanks in Kharkhiv, according to BBC. Are you saying that is made up?
        • Mikeb85 5y ago
          And they came on the road.
      • richardfey 5y ago
        There are already reports of 6 dead in a bombing that hit a hospital, I hope by mistake.
  • jhgb 5y ago
    And I imagine that many places would rather opt out of becoming another Chicago. "This is nothing, people elsewhere have it worse" can be applied to a majority of the world's population. It's a useless argument.