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My comment was very careful to not include partisanship or judgement. It was a question on if events caused them to "re-think" their affiliation. Flagging it, w

My comment was very careful to not include partisanship or judgement. It was a question on if events caused them to "re-think" their affiliation. Flagging it, while allowing commenters to spew Russian propaganda for the past 2 weeks doesn't seem to be "what HN is for".

dang 5y ago
I don't agree; it was a cross-examiney question, which is likely to feel like an attack even if it's carefully phrased, and the implicit point was obviously partisan. If you didn't intend it that way, then you needed to do a better job of disambiguating your intent. There are lots of ways to do that, but if you don't do it, a comment like this will have inflammatory effects on the thread whether you intended that or not. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=disambiguate%20burden%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... As for Russian propaganda, that isn't remotely representative of the forum. You may be falling prey to the bias that causes negative data points to stand out more (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20dislike%20notice&sort=byDate&type=story&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...), as well as the bias that causes internet users to feel that other commenters are foreign agents, astroturfers, spies, shills, bots, etc. On the latter, see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... If anyone wants an in-depth explanation, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725 is one of many.
- long_time_gone 5y ago
  > the implicit point was obviously partisan No, it was not. Partisan would be asking if they were going to switch to a specific different party. I asked if they re-thought their affiliation. > As for Russian propaganda, that isn't remotely representative of the forum. I never claimed it was, just that it has increased the past two weeks without much moderation. > the bias that causes internet users to feel that other commenters are foreign agents, astroturfers, spies, shills, bots, etc. Another thing I never claimed. All of these assumptions sound like they may be an example of the Illusion of Asymmetric Insight (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_asymmetric_insight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_asymmetric_insight). Is that how this works?
  - dang 5y ago
    Could be. That's a good link!

dang 5y ago

I don't agree; it was a cross-examiney question, which is likely to feel like an attack even if it's carefully phrased, and the implicit point was obviously partisan. If you didn't intend it that way, then you needed to do a better job of disambiguating your intent. There are lots of ways to do that, but if you don't do it, a comment like this will have inflammatory effects on the thread whether you intended that or not. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=disambiguate%20burden%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... As for Russian propaganda, that isn't remotely representative of the forum. You may be falling prey to the bias that causes negative data points to stand out more (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20dislike%20notice&sort=byDate&type=story&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...), as well as the bias that causes internet users to feel that other commenters are foreign agents, astroturfers, spies, shills, bots, etc. On the latter, see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... If anyone wants an in-depth explanation, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725 is one of many.

long_time_gone 5y ago
> the implicit point was obviously partisan No, it was not. Partisan would be asking if they were going to switch to a specific different party. I asked if they re-thought their affiliation. > As for Russian propaganda, that isn't remotely representative of the forum. I never claimed it was, just that it has increased the past two weeks without much moderation. > the bias that causes internet users to feel that other commenters are foreign agents, astroturfers, spies, shills, bots, etc. Another thing I never claimed. All of these assumptions sound like they may be an example of the Illusion of Asymmetric Insight (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_asymmetric_insight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_asymmetric_insight). Is that how this works?
- dang 5y ago
  Could be. That's a good link!