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And when the orange man came and said we should bring it back, I laughed at home and call him an idiot!
by bingohbangoh 5y ago
And when the orange man came and said we should bring it back, I laughed at home and call him an idiot!
- oneoff786 5y agoTrump’s claims were largely about bringing manufacturing jobs to America. Not reducing defense dependencies on vulnerable nations.
- genericone 5y agoThat was the stated goal for bringing steel production back to the USA at least, not sure about the imputed goals of other manufacturing jobs, but it should follow a similar line of thought, redundancy of critical-supply-chain parts.
- oneoff786 5y agoNo, that was a jobs play. Steel is well diversified, and we get our steel from a variety of largely trusted producers. The largest import source of steel was Canada. We also produce and export a lot of steel. Steel is important but it’s not similar at all to something like Taiwan’s unique situation
- voidfunc 5y agoA broken clock is still right twice a day.
- roughly 5y agoYeah, there was a definite "Trump said it so it's wrong" zeitgeist among the left that led to some uncomfortable moments. Tribal politics is a hell of a drug.
- dkonofalski 5y agoThat was not unique to the left.
- roughly 5y agoNever said it was.
- sophacles 5y agoYes of course it was funny that a conman got millions of idiots to believe he would do something that might hurt the balance sheet of his biggest donors.
- AvesMerit 5y agoHow much onshoring did orange man actually do? According to St. Louis FRED - https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MANEMP https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MANEMP - basically nothing > call him an idiot! And you were and still are right to do that!
- coolso 5y agoLove him or hate him, if you don't think Trump caused a monumental, almost overnight shift in both public and governmental opinion towards going back to promoting American manufacturing, bringing jobs back to America, and finally fighting back against China for their decades of taking advantage of us... you're letting your bias do all the talking, and that's sad. You'll note that in his debates, Biden took some lines almost directly out of Trump's playbook regarding those subjects (made to sound more polite of course), and in fact many of Trump's policies and executive orders, Biden has kept in place. Because they're having a positive effect. We just needed someone with balls like Trump to finally enact them. Big Tech, China, offshoring, and globalism can shove it. The tides are finally turning. If there's one good thing to come out of Trump's presidency, it's this!
- heurist 5y agoBernie was saying the same things before Trump showed up - this is a general trend, not caused by anyone in particular.
- coolso 5y agoPoliticians of all sorts have been saying lots of things for decades. The fact is, nobody as influential or as powerful as Trump ever actually did anything about most of them. In particular, the anti-China anti-offshoring sentiment. It took Trump yelling about it from the rooftops for over 5 years, and getting over half the population as passionate about it as he was, and then Trump actually doing things about it while in office, for things to actually happen and be set in motion.
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