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NATO also give you access to bases where you would not, and capacity to deploy your air career where you would not. ( Black Sea for instance ) Or store ICBM wh

NATO also give you access to bases where you would not, and capacity to deploy your air career where you would not. ( Black Sea for instance ) Or store ICBM where you could not. It’s convenient. RE: going back to Europe, for what exactly. If the German act out again? Russia maybe? We’ll see what actually happen with that one but we can only notice the US is way less trigger happy than it was in says : Iran invasion. Overall, we figured it out amongst ourself for a while. It will be fine. NATO allow the US army to have a considerably larger reach. I do agree with recent comment that it’s “brain dead” ( see : Turkey bullying Greece.) I’m with you, it should be disbanded and Europe should pay for its own army. But I don’t think the US would actually want that. That would be a blow to it’s reach. Edit : mandatory comment about USSR bearing most of WW2 war effort. Not the US :)

throwrqX 5y ago
NATO is the only reason the rest of Eastern Europe at the very minimum isn't also under the threat of invasion. I know a few Russian military guys, they joke often about raping Germany a second time, not in the sense of military but in the sense of their women, with the first being 1945 of course. Sometimes I doubt they are jokes, although perhaps if Germany was under such threat again it would make them realize their current strategy of being passive and try to be neutral will never work out in the long run. The ICBM argument has long been irrelevant since you can loiter nuclear subs around a country, especially Russia which has large ocean borders.
- dopidopHN 5y ago
  Yes, NATO should be dissolved and the US pack their bag out of Europe. I wish more American would think like you.
  - throwrqX 5y ago
    I'm not American.
    - dopidopHN 5y ago
      So why do you care about the cost of NATO? I should care, I pay taxes in the US. And oh wait… I always forgot since it’s new: I’m actually a US citizen as well. That does not change my view : US should not be surprised to bear the brunt of the cost. Since it’s their toy. And my personal wish would be for that alliance to be replaced by something controlled by EU. Then if the US want to keep their base, they can ask.
      - throwrqX 5y ago
        Because NATO is beneficial for western led global order which I much prefer to other systems that would be leading if not for it. Anything led by the EU is useless because the EU programs are death by 1000 committee cuts. Nothing ever gets done there because there's too much bureaucracy.

throwrqX 5y ago

NATO is the only reason the rest of Eastern Europe at the very minimum isn't also under the threat of invasion. I know a few Russian military guys, they joke often about raping Germany a second time, not in the sense of military but in the sense of their women, with the first being 1945 of course. Sometimes I doubt they are jokes, although perhaps if Germany was under such threat again it would make them realize their current strategy of being passive and try to be neutral will never work out in the long run. The ICBM argument has long been irrelevant since you can loiter nuclear subs around a country, especially Russia which has large ocean borders.

dopidopHN 5y ago
Yes, NATO should be dissolved and the US pack their bag out of Europe. I wish more American would think like you.
- throwrqX 5y ago
  I'm not American.
  - dopidopHN 5y ago
    So why do you care about the cost of NATO? I should care, I pay taxes in the US. And oh wait… I always forgot since it’s new: I’m actually a US citizen as well. That does not change my view : US should not be surprised to bear the brunt of the cost. Since it’s their toy. And my personal wish would be for that alliance to be replaced by something controlled by EU. Then if the US want to keep their base, they can ask.
    - throwrqX 5y ago
      Because NATO is beneficial for western led global order which I much prefer to other systems that would be leading if not for it. Anything led by the EU is useless because the EU programs are death by 1000 committee cuts. Nothing ever gets done there because there's too much bureaucracy.