>>>You can't seriously make this argument, the whole Donbas independence movement was a Russian ploy from day #1 to create the pretext required to do exactly wh

>>>You can't seriously make this argument, the whole Donbas independence movement was a Russian ploy from day #1 to create the pretext required to do exactly what they are doing today. Isn't that pretty much the argument Russia made, when the US supported Kosovo independence from Serbia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%27s_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%27s_reaction_to_the_200...