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What is the proof that AWS is down? Functional monitoring of AWS by metrist.io (I'm a co-founder) shows no AWS problems. Downdetector is not a reliable source.

djbusby 5y ago
Neat! Wish you had a clickable demo rather than just screenshots.
- jmartens 5y ago
  Thanks for the feedback, we can do that soon.
reubano 5y ago
What makes Downdetector unreliable? It's showing a huge spike right now.
- djbusby 5y ago
  Their (metrist) claim is that DD is human reported and therefore unreliable. Metrist monitors via bots
  - jmartens 5y ago
    It can be useful, but you have to take it with a grain of salt. A perfect example is the recent Facebook (Meta) outage. When that happened, Downdetector showed that ATT, Verizon, and T-Mobile all had issues. They didn't, it was just Facebook and users mentioned or otherwise claimed that it was their mobile carrier.
- jaywalk 5y ago
  It's solely based off social media and user reports. It's the "smoke" in the saying "where there's smoke, there's fire" with the caveat that in some cases there's actually no fire even if there's a decent amount of smoke.
- zorpner 5y ago
  Downdetector relies on user reports, so e.g. if a user's ISP is down and they can't get to Facebook, they might report Facebook being down (or vice versa). DD spikes are typically indicative of _something_, but it's not always the actual down service.
  - reubano 5y ago
    Gotcha. Although for a spike this large (over 1000) for a tech service (AWS vs Facebook) I'd give some credence to it. It could be that everyone who reported AWS as down is running on Heroku. Definitely possible. For comparison Azure [0] and Google Cloud [1] have spikes under 30. [0] https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/ https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/ [1] https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/ https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/
nuggien 5y ago
maybe your service isn't as reliable as you think it is ;)

djbusby 5y ago

Neat! Wish you had a clickable demo rather than just screenshots.

jmartens 5y ago
Thanks for the feedback, we can do that soon.

reubano 5y ago

What makes Downdetector unreliable? It's showing a huge spike right now.

djbusby 5y ago
Their (metrist) claim is that DD is human reported and therefore unreliable. Metrist monitors via bots
- jmartens 5y ago
  It can be useful, but you have to take it with a grain of salt. A perfect example is the recent Facebook (Meta) outage. When that happened, Downdetector showed that ATT, Verizon, and T-Mobile all had issues. They didn't, it was just Facebook and users mentioned or otherwise claimed that it was their mobile carrier.
jaywalk 5y ago
It's solely based off social media and user reports. It's the "smoke" in the saying "where there's smoke, there's fire" with the caveat that in some cases there's actually no fire even if there's a decent amount of smoke.
zorpner 5y ago
Downdetector relies on user reports, so e.g. if a user's ISP is down and they can't get to Facebook, they might report Facebook being down (or vice versa). DD spikes are typically indicative of _something_, but it's not always the actual down service.
- reubano 5y ago
  Gotcha. Although for a spike this large (over 1000) for a tech service (AWS vs Facebook) I'd give some credence to it. It could be that everyone who reported AWS as down is running on Heroku. Definitely possible. For comparison Azure [0] and Google Cloud [1] have spikes under 30. [0] https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/ https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/ [1] https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/ https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/

nuggien 5y ago

maybe your service isn't as reliable as you think it is ;)