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In mice. Let's temper the usual nutritional conspiracy allegations and grand proclamations of effects on humans until someone trained and knowledgable provides
by tpush 5y ago
In mice. Let's temper the usual nutritional conspiracy allegations and grand proclamations of effects on humans until someone trained and knowledgable provides an interpretation of this study. Most of these rodent studies end up not being applicable to humans anyway.
- softwarebeware 5y agoAgreed. From the post: > A caveat for readers concerned about their most recent meal is that this study was conducted on mice, and mouse studies do not always translate to the same results in humans.
- cottager2 5y agoDo you have a source for the claim that most studies done in mice don’t hold up? As far as I know, mice are quite a good proxy, although there are some differences. It seems like it would be a complete waste of time to study mice if most results didn’t hold.
- zdragnar 5y agoThe post itself includes a caution against applying this information directly to humans. It is a sign further research is warranted, nothing more (as opposed to completely pointless).
- The_rationalist 5y ago
- 09bjb 5y agoMice strike the best balance for science of animals who are decent proxies for humans, are inexpensive to breed and genetically manipulate, and who don't trigger much ethical backlash. It seems to me though that the extent to which mouse biology and behavior translates well to human biology and behavior might also be the extent to which it's totally immoral. "Yes, but think of how many future lives I'll save by vivisecting this sentient or semi-sentient being..."
- Avshalom 5y agoYou can start with following footnotes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_mouse#Limitations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_mouse#Limitations or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_testing#Scientific_criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_testing#Scientific_crit... I guess; I doubt it's possible to show what % of mouse studies hold up or don't hold up.
- andreilys 5y agoThere is plenty of research done on the harmful effects of seed oils. It’s not a stretch to assume this is yet another study demonstrating this in mice models.
- jonnycomputer 5y agoBut there also seems to be a ton of research suggesting the seed, nut and legume consumption is very healthy...
- andreilys 5y agoYes however that’s different than consuming processed seed oil.