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A list of lightweight websites without bloat
- marginalia_nu 5y agoInteresting irony that the page containing the list itself has a 2 Mb payload.
- cnst 5y agoCame to comment just that! Isn't that ironic? The "best" part is all this bloat doesn't even add any real extra functionality of value. Simply extra bullet points to the resumes of the folk who build all these sites.
- nmilo 5y agoNot really, it's on github, they can't control that. I guess they could make a static github pages, but a github repo gives hosting and community contribution for free.
- marginalia_nu 5y agoWell sure they can control it, by not hosting it on github. There are plenty of other hosting options.
- rapnie 5y agoCodeberg.org and Codeberg Pages comes to mind.
- rhizome 5y agoNot having a cable modem also comes to mind. After that, personal webspace gets easy to find.
- marginalia_nu 5y agoIf you want to serve a list of lightweight web services, is it too much to ask to do it in a way where the people who might benefit from those services can benefit from the list?
- john-doe 5y agoHere you go, I hope you don’t mind raw markdown: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mdibaiee/awesome-lite-websites/master/README.md https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mdibaiee/awesome-lite-webs...
- marginalia_nu 5y agoIf only there was a way to serve HTML over HTTP :-(
- minroot 5y agoWait until you see Twitter
- mark_mcnally_je 5y agogoodwebsites.org
- henning 5y agoWhen I want to go to a website with quality content and no bloat, I check danluu.com.
- ecmascript 5y agoI want to shamelessly plug me and my friends podcast player https://podd.app/ https://podd.app/ (if you're into podcasts) It doesn't have all the podcasts yet but it is small and very non bloat. There is no ads and no real framework so it should load fast.
- kevincox 5y ago> It doesn't have all the podcasts yet but it is small and very non bloat That is a weird statement because a podcast is just a URL. However I can't find anywhere on the site to add a URL (other than the Import which I assume is OMPL and would allow arbitrary URLs?)
- ecmascript 5y agoYes the OPML import would import all podcasts in the OPML that is not currently in the database. I am going to add support for adding podcasts on the site but in the meanwhile you can add them by using http post to https://api.podd.app/podcasts https://api.podd.app/podcasts with an x-www-form-urlencoded array called "urls". You can have 1 or several urls, they will be added to the repository of podcasts if we don't already track it. :)
- drcongo 5y agoThe first site from the list I tested performs absolutely horribly - https://gtmetrix.com/reports/levelnews.org/TgumkZOr/ https://gtmetrix.com/reports/levelnews.org/TgumkZOr/
- dmitrygr 5y agohow is this missing 68k.news?
- toss1 5y agoWow - what a great find! Everyone should know of this - thanks!
- cf100clunk 5y agoLikewise it is missing https://www.cbc.ca/lite/ https://www.cbc.ca/lite/ but there is a pull request for it.
- nicbou 5y agoSometimes, a little CSS and JS go a long way to help the users achieve their goals. Spartan websites can be hard to read. My own website uses more and more JavaScript, but it supports the main content. For example, a glossary bubble for German words, a table of content that highlights the current section, and calculators give you quicker answers. A few of the websites listed there might be lightweight, but many seem to offer a poor user experience, even for just text on a page. In my opinion, the best example of a lightweight website is the NHS. Yes, the page is lightweight, but the effort extends to the design and even the text on the page.
- the__alchemist 5y agoA little CSS and JS isn't the problem - a lot of it, or JS that performs excessive calculations is!
- lewispollard 5y agoBloat is one thing, and good content design another. The NHS, and gov.uk, are some of the largest employers of UX/content designers in the UK, and recently it shows. A lot of it is considered the gold standard for content design; extremely clear, well presented information, where the most commonly relevant information is easily identified and straightforward. Less bloat is, I guess, a side effect of good content design, rather than less bloat being the reason they're good sites. Of course, it's easier to do good content design when there isn't any commercialism involved. As soon as you have to introduce ads, sponsors, paid-for content and unnecessary padding/pages/waffle in the name of views and clicks, you can say goodbye to good content design and low bloat.
- nicbou 5y ago> you can say goodbye to good content design and low bloat I generally agree, but I make a living from bucking that trend. The few websites that don't become affiliate mouthpieces quickly become household names in their niche.
- lewispollard 5y ago
- kloch 5y agoMy ad-free/JavaScript-free IP address lookup: ip4.me / ip6.me
- theandrewbailey 5y agoSee also 1MB Club: https://1mb.club/ https://1mb.club/ 512k Club: https://512kb.club/ https://512kb.club/ 250k Club: https://250kb.club/ https://250kb.club/
- smukherjee19 5y agoPerhaps it's not well-known outside Japan but one (domestically?) famous website used to test slow internet here is the famous actor Abe (surname) Hiroshi's (first name) website: http://abehiroshi.la.coocan.jp/ http://abehiroshi.la.coocan.jp/ I have no idea how it compares to the ones on the list here though.
- b215826 5y agoVery interesting website. I would never have imagined a 21st actor to have a webpage that looks like that of a professor from the mid 1990s. Hiroshi Abe is also an excellent actor -- Still Walking and After the Storm (both directed by Hirokazu Koreeda) are two very enjoyable films I've seen.
- codeptualize 5y agoThis list makes me realize how much I appreciate design. For all the ones I tried I much prefer the "heavy" versions. It's probably different on a slow connection so it's good the lightweight versions exist, but for me downloading a few MB's is not at all a problem and totally worth it.
- zozbot234 5y agoI wonder how many Gemini sites are also served as HTTP(s) and could be directly added to a list like this. What's a tech stack like Gemini good for if the contents you host on it aren't broadly accessible using standard tech?
- pdenton 5y agoA lightweight website doesn't have to be boring. My current project has a 1920x1080 picture which is only 29KiB with AVIF (and it'll further reduce in size when I crop it for smaller displays, using the picture element with media queries). There was 5,7KiB worth of SVG icons and I turned it into a 2KiB font. Not the best of savings, but still better (although correct sizing and positioning of font icons is somewhat difficult).
- nicbou 5y agoI found that inlining SVGs is a lot faster than loading an external font, because of the server round trip.
- pdenton 5y agoYou can inline a font as well, just use the data: URI. I do this only for really small font files, such as the icons, and having the above-the-fold CSS in a style tag means the font comes with the HTML request.