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As on social media it is very hard to tell whether posted footage and information is genuine, recent and from the claimed places, crowdsourcing the collection o

As on social media it is very hard to tell whether posted footage and information is genuine, recent and from the claimed places, crowdsourcing the collection of sources probably is a good idea. Hopefully this will help distinguishing legit from fake information.

londons_explore 5y ago
So far, most false info seems to be recognisable by a non-expert within a few minutes of research. For example, when I see a twitter video of army trucks going down a freeway geotagged, I can at least use satellite view on google maps to match up landmarks and confirm the location is accurate, and I can check the sun position and weather to get an idea if the date/time is accurate. Most 'fake news' stories seem to fail even these basic checks, although it would be pretty easy to fake these elements too.
- HatchedLake721 5y ago
  This doesn’t stop tens of millions of people taking it in as truth.
- BurningPenguin 5y ago
  I'd say actually checking them is already a basic expert move. Most people don't even know about geotags, and certain groups don't even care.
0x38B 5y ago
Case in point: > For Eastern Ukraine specifically, this has included a supposed infiltration by Ukrainian saboteurs into Russia. [2] Geolocation of the footage (taken from the helmet of one of the Ukrainian soldiers that supposedly participated in the infiltration) debunked the story within an hour after it turned out that the supposed incursion into Russian territory was carried out from separatist-held territory. [3] Rather than showing the bodies of the five Ukrainian soldiers that were supposedly killed in the raid, Russia instead showed a destroyed BTR-70M armoured personnel carrier (APC) that was painted in an ill-conceived attempt to make it look like a Ukrainian vehicle. [4] Ironically, Ukraine doesn't even operate the BTR-70M, further showing the attention (or lack thereof) that goes into these false flag operations. Source: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/false-flag-shenanigans-russian.html https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/false-flag-shenanigans...
- midasuni 5y ago
  Lies spread like wildfire Disproving them takes far more resources than spreading, and doesn’t spread
  - reitanqild 5y ago
    Good thing is it seems people are getting better at remembering who lied most and most recently. (Yes, that is me kind of implicitly admitting that the war against WMD in Iraq was based on lies. I want Nato but I don't want Afghanistan, Iraq etc.) At this point, after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 and after repeatedly saying they wouldn't invade Ukraine etc etc everyone should know that even if we don't always trust our own, Putin and those loyal to him are absolutely untrustworthy.
darrenf 5y ago
IMO @Shayan86 (a BBC journalist specialising is conspiracy theories, disinformation, extremism, etc) does a good job of this: https://twitter.com/Shayan86 https://twitter.com/Shayan86

londons_explore 5y ago

So far, most false info seems to be recognisable by a non-expert within a few minutes of research. For example, when I see a twitter video of army trucks going down a freeway geotagged, I can at least use satellite view on google maps to match up landmarks and confirm the location is accurate, and I can check the sun position and weather to get an idea if the date/time is accurate. Most 'fake news' stories seem to fail even these basic checks, although it would be pretty easy to fake these elements too.

HatchedLake721 5y ago
This doesn’t stop tens of millions of people taking it in as truth.
BurningPenguin 5y ago
I'd say actually checking them is already a basic expert move. Most people don't even know about geotags, and certain groups don't even care.

0x38B 5y ago

Case in point: > For Eastern Ukraine specifically, this has included a supposed infiltration by Ukrainian saboteurs into Russia. [2] Geolocation of the footage (taken from the helmet of one of the Ukrainian soldiers that supposedly participated in the infiltration) debunked the story within an hour after it turned out that the supposed incursion into Russian territory was carried out from separatist-held territory. [3] Rather than showing the bodies of the five Ukrainian soldiers that were supposedly killed in the raid, Russia instead showed a destroyed BTR-70M armoured personnel carrier (APC) that was painted in an ill-conceived attempt to make it look like a Ukrainian vehicle. [4] Ironically, Ukraine doesn't even operate the BTR-70M, further showing the attention (or lack thereof) that goes into these false flag operations. Source: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/false-flag-shenanigans-russian.html https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/false-flag-shenanigans...

midasuni 5y ago
Lies spread like wildfire Disproving them takes far more resources than spreading, and doesn’t spread
- reitanqild 5y ago
  Good thing is it seems people are getting better at remembering who lied most and most recently. (Yes, that is me kind of implicitly admitting that the war against WMD in Iraq was based on lies. I want Nato but I don't want Afghanistan, Iraq etc.) At this point, after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 and after repeatedly saying they wouldn't invade Ukraine etc etc everyone should know that even if we don't always trust our own, Putin and those loyal to him are absolutely untrustworthy.

darrenf 5y ago

IMO @Shayan86 (a BBC journalist specialising is conspiracy theories, disinformation, extremism, etc) does a good job of this: https://twitter.com/Shayan86 https://twitter.com/Shayan86