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Many countries could also source fossil fuels from friendly allies. But those allies would have to be interested in extracting it from their own sources. From
by eej71 5y ago
Many countries could also source fossil fuels from friendly allies. But those allies would have to be interested in extracting it from their own sources.
From my stand point, and this will be very unpopular here, the push to rely on the unreliables (a better name for the renewables) has been toxic and is a destabilizing force in the world.
- jfoutz 5y agoWell a car was less reliable than a horse. Cars were destabilizing. (No pun intended) but cars kinda worked out. Unreliables will get more reliable, these things take time.
- WJW 5y agoAs is becoming painfully clear right now, relying on other countries for your energy needs is also unreliable. You just get unpredictable and large supply shocks every few years instead of smaller predictable ones every night. Building out grid level energy storage looks like a way better solution than hoping the countries which are allies now will remain so indefinitely.
- eej71 5y agoMany of the countries that can afford to do this already have fossil fuel reserves that they could use should they choose to. Even of the countries that could pay for this abusrdly expensive project - this will require mining rare earth elements that the green movement will never tolerate.
- koide 5y agoDid you know that the fossil energy sources are also intermittent? No energy plant is ever working 24x7x365. Stop with the fud already. There are real concerns with solar and wind that could be ameliorated with small scale storage, nuclear, geothermal and hydro. But to call them toxic and destabilizing is patently untrue, the destabilizing factor is not renewable energy.
- eej71 5y agoThe dream of any kind of small scale storage hinges on mining rare earth elements at a scale that no environmentalist will ever support. The greens will fully reverse course here once it becomes clear what kind of activity is required to make that possible. I call them destablizing because the unjustified attacks on fossil fuels have delivered free countries into the economic hands of despotic regimes.
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- koide 5y agoThat the attacks are unjustified is arguable. The problem is not the attacks on them, but the politics. If Europe is still consuming fossil fuels they could still produce them and source it elsewhere and not buy it from Russia. In addition, without renewables, the situation would be similar as Europe would still have near 100% fossil fuel energy production (except France). Nuclear could potentially have changed things, but that's not related to the attack of fossil fuels. That's again politics and perception. I agree than many times the "greens" cause more trouble than solutions, and that, again, is politics.