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> loses games all the time to 16 year olds? That's the news.

by laxmin 5y ago

Dlanv 5y ago
Yes. He even lost once in rapid to a person who was brand new to chess, if I recall correctly
- Davidzheng 5y ago
  Lmao (obviously this never happened)
  - 8note 5y ago
    Losing says nothing about the seriousness of the game
bigcat123 5y ago
tibbar 5y ago
Definitely. Off the top of my head: Abdusattorov, Sarin, Firouzja, Keymer, Niemann, Yoo as well as Praggnanandhaa could all take down Magnus in a given blitz game, and have been strong enough to do so for several years. Rapid is definitely a tougher proposition, but most of them could steal the occasional round from Magnus there, too. To be clear, Magnus is still one of the strongest, if not the strongest, players in the world at speed chess, but there's much more variability per game than in classical and at a given format (eg online 3+0, with premoves) probably he's edged out by any number of players.
- happytoexplain 5y ago
  I'm confused - the parent is referring to a "did", but you said "could".
  - tibbar 5y ago
    For example, here's Nihal Sarin beating Magnus at a blitz game at 16 years old: https://www.chess.com/events/2021-magnus-carlsen-vs-challengers/01-07/Carlsen_Magnus-Nihal_Sarin https://www.chess.com/events/2021-magnus-carlsen-vs-challeng.... Sarin is currently rated #5 on the chess.com blitz leaderboard with an absurd rating of over 3100. Online speed chess is just a different animal - ratings are different, everyone plays lots more games, and even Magnus loses fairly often. These players are all rated high enough to be competitive with Magnus at certain speed time controls, which is my point.
  - CaptainNegative 5y ago
    And here's another example, with FM Yoav Milikow beating him on stream in 8 moves at either 15 or 16 years old (depending on Yoav's birth month). Speed chess is a different animal. https://youtu.be/mor6qpyT7jA https://youtu.be/mor6qpyT7jA
bryan0 5y ago
Not sure why this is downvoted. This is news because he is the youngest player to beat magnus since he became world champ, and it was an excellent game to boot.
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> loses games all the time to 16 year olds? That's the news.

by laxmin 5y ago

> loses games all the time to 16 year olds? That's the news.

Dlanv 5y ago

Yes. He even lost once in rapid to a person who was brand new to chess, if I recall correctly

Davidzheng 5y ago
Lmao (obviously this never happened)
- 8note 5y ago
  Losing says nothing about the seriousness of the game

bigcat123 5y ago

tibbar 5y ago

Definitely. Off the top of my head: Abdusattorov, Sarin, Firouzja, Keymer, Niemann, Yoo as well as Praggnanandhaa could all take down Magnus in a given blitz game, and have been strong enough to do so for several years. Rapid is definitely a tougher proposition, but most of them could steal the occasional round from Magnus there, too. To be clear, Magnus is still one of the strongest, if not the strongest, players in the world at speed chess, but there's much more variability per game than in classical and at a given format (eg online 3+0, with premoves) probably he's edged out by any number of players.

happytoexplain 5y ago
I'm confused - the parent is referring to a "did", but you said "could".
- tibbar 5y ago
  For example, here's Nihal Sarin beating Magnus at a blitz game at 16 years old: https://www.chess.com/events/2021-magnus-carlsen-vs-challengers/01-07/Carlsen_Magnus-Nihal_Sarin https://www.chess.com/events/2021-magnus-carlsen-vs-challeng.... Sarin is currently rated #5 on the chess.com blitz leaderboard with an absurd rating of over 3100. Online speed chess is just a different animal - ratings are different, everyone plays lots more games, and even Magnus loses fairly often. These players are all rated high enough to be competitive with Magnus at certain speed time controls, which is my point.
- CaptainNegative 5y ago
  And here's another example, with FM Yoav Milikow beating him on stream in 8 moves at either 15 or 16 years old (depending on Yoav's birth month). Speed chess is a different animal. https://youtu.be/mor6qpyT7jA https://youtu.be/mor6qpyT7jA

bryan0 5y ago

Not sure why this is downvoted. This is news because he is the youngest player to beat magnus since he became world champ, and it was an excellent game to boot.

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