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A tiling window manager is one thing I still miss on MacOS from Linux. Back then I used ion3, I still think about it fondly. I've been eyeing yabai [0] for a w

by tra3 5y ago

A tiling window manager is one thing I still miss on MacOS from Linux. Back then I used ion3, I still think about it fondly. I've been eyeing yabai [0] for a while. It requires system integrity protection to be disabled. I initially misread it as being fully disabled, but it turns out once whatever extensions are injected, protection can be reenabled. Excited to try it once it's got a Monterey version. [0] https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai

gregwebs 5y ago
re-enabling only works on Intel so I had to drop it :( Amethyst is the only alternative I know of but I am still trying to get it to use the shortcuts that I want.
- maximilianroos 5y ago
  Amethyst is great!
  - Steltek 5y ago
    Counterpoint: Amethyst is not great but it's also not Amethyst's fault. It does the best it can with MacOS's limited API support (really, using "accessibility" APIs, not windowing). Compared to i3 and other "standard" tiling WMs, you can't even really call it a tiling WM. - The shortcuts are hot garbage - Excessive windowing chrome everywhere takes up screen real estate - Tree hierarchy of windows/containers (e.g. horizontal box of vertical boxes of windows) is not possible/practical - Responsiveness to manual window manipulation is not great. I keep it installed because MacOS's default keyboard support for windowing is far worse, borderline unusable compared to Linux options. It sets the wrong expectations to talk about Amethyst (or MacOS in general) in the context of tiling WMs.
    - tra3 5y ago
      Been playing with Amethyst for a couple of hours; valid complaints, but it's true of others (magnet, sizeup, etc). I guess the only other option is yabai. I'm not clear what the story is with respect to SIP and Monterey.
- tra3 5y ago
  So you can't run it at all on Monterey? That's disappointing.
unfocussed_mike 5y ago
Have you looked at Magnet? Adds some tiling functionality based on drag-to-the-edge snapping, and installs right out of the Mac App Store. Not expensive either. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12
wuzz3r 5y ago
I previously used Yabai, but switched to Rectangle [0] as it doesn't require SIP to be disabled. It's not automatic with its tiling, it needs some direction but it provides a nice 'best-of-both' kind of approach. [0] https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/

by tra3 5y ago

gregwebs 5y ago

re-enabling only works on Intel so I had to drop it :( Amethyst is the only alternative I know of but I am still trying to get it to use the shortcuts that I want.

maximilianroos 5y ago
Amethyst is great!
- Steltek 5y ago
  Counterpoint: Amethyst is not great but it's also not Amethyst's fault. It does the best it can with MacOS's limited API support (really, using "accessibility" APIs, not windowing). Compared to i3 and other "standard" tiling WMs, you can't even really call it a tiling WM. - The shortcuts are hot garbage - Excessive windowing chrome everywhere takes up screen real estate - Tree hierarchy of windows/containers (e.g. horizontal box of vertical boxes of windows) is not possible/practical - Responsiveness to manual window manipulation is not great. I keep it installed because MacOS's default keyboard support for windowing is far worse, borderline unusable compared to Linux options. It sets the wrong expectations to talk about Amethyst (or MacOS in general) in the context of tiling WMs.
  - tra3 5y ago
    Been playing with Amethyst for a couple of hours; valid complaints, but it's true of others (magnet, sizeup, etc). I guess the only other option is yabai. I'm not clear what the story is with respect to SIP and Monterey.
tra3 5y ago
So you can't run it at all on Monterey? That's disappointing.

unfocussed_mike 5y ago

Have you looked at Magnet? Adds some tiling functionality based on drag-to-the-edge snapping, and installs right out of the Mac App Store. Not expensive either. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12

wuzz3r 5y ago

I previously used Yabai, but switched to Rectangle [0] as it doesn't require SIP to be disabled. It's not automatic with its tiling, it needs some direction but it provides a nice 'best-of-both' kind of approach. [0] https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/