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>> Remember the idea of herd immunity is to hit some requisite percentage of the population that will help protect the people who can't be vaccinated or are imm

by NoPie 5y ago

>> Remember the idea of herd immunity is to hit some requisite percentage of the population that will help protect the people who can't be vaccinated or are immunocompromised. I remember that idea and unfortunately it is not possible to reach herd immunity with vaccines that do not protect from infection. You need to update the current scientific knowledge. That's why I am saying that vaccine mandates are anti-scientific because they ignore hard scientific facts and are based on la-la land ideas.

BeefWellington 5y ago
> I remember that idea and unfortunately it is not possible to reach herd immunity with vaccines that do not protect from infection. You need to update the current scientific knowledge. That's why I am saying that vaccine mandates are anti-scientific because they ignore hard scientific facts and are based on la-la land ideas. Please provide any kind of source or citation for this claim, rather than simply dropping "you need to update the current scientific knowledge" as though what you are stating as fact.
- NoPie 5y ago
  I am really surprised that you are asking about this as if this is something that still needs to be proved. Read the UN materials on this issue. They are very informative. Basically this is something you have to research yourself because the number of scientific articles are so numerous that I don't even know where to start. When omicron came it became obvious that most people – vaccinated or not – will get it. Vaccines are only protecting people by reducing disease severity and deaths (about 90% protection). Nevertheless, many politicians haven't updated their knowledge therefore insists on stupid mandates. For more layman reading this article is good: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-...

by NoPie 5y ago

BeefWellington 5y ago

> I remember that idea and unfortunately it is not possible to reach herd immunity with vaccines that do not protect from infection. You need to update the current scientific knowledge. That's why I am saying that vaccine mandates are anti-scientific because they ignore hard scientific facts and are based on la-la land ideas. Please provide any kind of source or citation for this claim, rather than simply dropping "you need to update the current scientific knowledge" as though what you are stating as fact.

NoPie 5y ago
I am really surprised that you are asking about this as if this is something that still needs to be proved. Read the UN materials on this issue. They are very informative. Basically this is something you have to research yourself because the number of scientific articles are so numerous that I don't even know where to start. When omicron came it became obvious that most people – vaccinated or not – will get it. Vaccines are only protecting people by reducing disease severity and deaths (about 90% protection). Nevertheless, many politicians haven't updated their knowledge therefore insists on stupid mandates. For more layman reading this article is good: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-...