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In my experience, the Rust community isn't toxic at all. To the contrary: when I started to explore Rust, it was very welcoming, helped finding the answer to al

In my experience, the Rust community isn't toxic at all. To the contrary: when I started to explore Rust, it was very welcoming, helped finding the answer to all my nooby questions, which they probably heard a dozen times - despite having a lot of C++ and JS baggage

MisterTea 5y ago
You have a veery one sided perspective. Someone adopting/learning a language will be met with plenty of positivity and encouragement. The toxicity comes in to play once you post something critical of the language, even if it has merit.
- Yoric 5y ago
  So you're saying that people leaving comments on (I assume) blogs are typically less civil than people who take the time to work with newcomers and actually make the community work? That is certainly true, but for pretty much every community that I know, not limited to any programming language or technology.
tayo42 5y ago
Did you see what happened to the actix project. That was embarrassing
- Yoric 5y ago
  What happened to the actix project? Asking, because I use it daily :)
  - tayo42 5y ago
    It used to use a bunch of unsafe, someone decided that wasn't acceptable and it blew up into a whole thing where people started dog piling on the project and the maintainer. everyone got emotional, he eventually quit and gave up actix to someone else i think. pretty unnecessary and childish the way people acted towards him imo. a lot happened on reddit and github so it should be easy to find.
    - Measter 5y ago
      As I recall, it wasn't just that unsafe was being used, plenty of libraries use unsafe, but that there were multiple examples of unsafe being used with provable soundness issues when it was possible to do the same with safe code and no performance loss. On a web server which the author was advertising as production ready. Additionally the author was reluctant, and in the final case outright refused, to accept fixes because they weren't interesting. For that last one, the fix was to replace the custom Cell (or RefCell, I forget) implementation with the one from the standard library. The big "dog pile" happened on that last one.
      - rat9988 5y ago
        He didn't deserve any of it. They felt entitled to a better code he didn't want in his codebase. I remember the shitshow, many people are too entitled, rust community is not exempt of them.

MisterTea 5y ago

You have a veery one sided perspective. Someone adopting/learning a language will be met with plenty of positivity and encouragement. The toxicity comes in to play once you post something critical of the language, even if it has merit.

Yoric 5y ago
So you're saying that people leaving comments on (I assume) blogs are typically less civil than people who take the time to work with newcomers and actually make the community work? That is certainly true, but for pretty much every community that I know, not limited to any programming language or technology.

tayo42 5y ago

Did you see what happened to the actix project. That was embarrassing

Yoric 5y ago
What happened to the actix project? Asking, because I use it daily :)
- tayo42 5y ago
  It used to use a bunch of unsafe, someone decided that wasn't acceptable and it blew up into a whole thing where people started dog piling on the project and the maintainer. everyone got emotional, he eventually quit and gave up actix to someone else i think. pretty unnecessary and childish the way people acted towards him imo. a lot happened on reddit and github so it should be easy to find.
  - Measter 5y ago
    As I recall, it wasn't just that unsafe was being used, plenty of libraries use unsafe, but that there were multiple examples of unsafe being used with provable soundness issues when it was possible to do the same with safe code and no performance loss. On a web server which the author was advertising as production ready. Additionally the author was reluctant, and in the final case outright refused, to accept fixes because they weren't interesting. For that last one, the fix was to replace the custom Cell (or RefCell, I forget) implementation with the one from the standard library. The big "dog pile" happened on that last one.
    - rat9988 5y ago
      He didn't deserve any of it. They felt entitled to a better code he didn't want in his codebase. I remember the shitshow, many people are too entitled, rust community is not exempt of them.