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I've spent 2k just on a monitor. I'm more surprised that the quest is so cheap, but then I remember exactly what you said: the quest is not the product, I am t
by gorjusborg 5y ago
I've spent 2k just on a monitor.
I'm more surprised that the quest is so cheap, but then I remember exactly what you said: the quest is not the product, I am the product.
Then I remember why I don't use Meta products anymore.
- ganzuul 5y agoIt is strange that paying for being a product that is sold has become normalized. Then again slavery was common not long ago.
- gorjusborg 5y agoAgreed, it is a bit strange, but I do feel like people are slowly getting wise to the swindle. Unfortunately, I think socioeconomic pressures are also pushing people to compromise in ways that are not in their best interest, even if they do get it. In other words, they'll get the 'cheap' product that invades their privacy, sells their data, and shows ads to them, because they don't have the money for a product they own (see: television market).
- renewiltord 5y agoThat is right. Being shown a targeted advertisement is exactly the same as being forced to pick cotton in the fields by day under threat of life and limb. As a matter of fact, the real question is whether the slaves suffered even a fraction as much as I did browsing Instagram. An argument could be made that even thinking about the slave trade is inconsiderate when billions are shown ads on Facebook properties today.
- ganzuul 5y agoNobody thinks that.
- white_dragon88 5y agoFirstly what kind of monitor is that? Wtf? Also the cliche of it’s not the product, you are is cute but played out. If you’re getting your bang for buck on it as a consumer (and I know I am), then moral arguments are useless. As with all things the market makes the ultimate decisions, not the individual.
- throwawaynay 5y ago>If you’re getting your bang for buck on it as a consumer (and I know I am), then moral arguments are useless. As with all things the market makes the ultimate decisions, not the individual. You could use the same train of thought for Soylent Green.
- tasha0663 5y ago> the cliche of it’s not the product, you are is cute but played out Cute, cliche, and played out? If you dismiss it in three different ways are you magically correct? It might be a losing battle in the face on increasing complacency and bad incentives, but it's not over no matter how many different ways you want to dismiss it.
- nsxwolf 5y agoI haven't spent $2000 but I spent $1500 for a 23" Apple Cinema Display in 2004 (adjust that for inflation!) and about that much for my current 3840x1600 ultrawide Acer.
- a_t48 5y agohttps://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/32-to-34-inches/rog-swift-pg32uqx-model/ https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/32-to-34-inches/rog-swift-p... I have one of these - a little overpriced but looks absolutely amazing.
- throwaway1777 5y agoIt’s not so much that you are the product in meta’s vr offerings, it’s that quest is a loss leader because the rest of meta is so profitable.
- gorjusborg 5y agoI wouldn't be so sure. Meta forced Oculus users to transition to a Facebook login after they had already bought the device. They are a surveillance company who collects, correlates and sells personal information. They aren't going to stop at the VR boundary and suddenly change their mission.
- kanetw 5y agoAbsolutely. I think that proposition was incredibly clear back when they used to offer Oculus for Business, which was like $800-900? Now they don't even offer that.
- nonplus 5y agoYeah the Samsung G9 was a silly amount of money on release, and I bought one.