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I have never understood these cases. Even if you are able to force someone to work for you, which I don't agree with, you can't force them to do good work. Is

by prirun 5y ago

I have never understood these cases. Even if you are able to force someone to work for you, which I don't agree with, you can't force them to do good work. Is the next step to sue someone because "they didn't do work up to their typical standard"? What if I don't want to work with Facebook because I think they're evil? Is that discrimination against evil corporations? Can they sue me and force me to work there? In America, all states except 1 are "right to work", which really means "right to fire". So anyone has the right to fire me, but I don't get to choose who I work for? Who wants to work with someone when you know they don't want to work with you?

shadowgovt 5y ago
> I have never understood these cases The Civil Rights Act was passed because in the United States, we had a real problem with entire sections of the country being functionally unlivable for minorities because of the general right to refuse service. So if you live in a town where nobody will serve you at a restaurant, nobody will sell to you, nobody will allow you to open a bank account, and nobody will even sell you gas for your car, it doesn't matter if the government isn't discriminating against you... You can't live there. But the Civil Rights Act didn't impinge directly on freedom of expression enshrined in the First Amendment (although it did impinge on freedom of association). The businesses the people had in mind when they passed the law were things like hotels, restaurants, and stores, where the provided service is commodity. When the provided service includes some aspect of artistic expression, people believe there's still an open question of whether the Civil Rights Act includes an aspect of compelled speech in using one's artistic talents to propagate a message one disagrees with. It's a legitimately complicated question of where one person's rights end and another person's rights begin (although, to be clear, so was the original Civil Rights Act when it clarified that the right to refuse service was not universal). > What if I don't want to work with Facebook because I think they're evil? Is that discrimination against evil corporations? The Civil Rights Act doesn't provide being an evil corporation as a protected class. So the answer would be "yes, refusing to work with evil corporations is legal discrimination."

by prirun 5y ago

shadowgovt 5y ago

> I have never understood these cases The Civil Rights Act was passed because in the United States, we had a real problem with entire sections of the country being functionally unlivable for minorities because of the general right to refuse service. So if you live in a town where nobody will serve you at a restaurant, nobody will sell to you, nobody will allow you to open a bank account, and nobody will even sell you gas for your car, it doesn't matter if the government isn't discriminating against you... You can't live there. But the Civil Rights Act didn't impinge directly on freedom of expression enshrined in the First Amendment (although it did impinge on freedom of association). The businesses the people had in mind when they passed the law were things like hotels, restaurants, and stores, where the provided service is commodity. When the provided service includes some aspect of artistic expression, people believe there's still an open question of whether the Civil Rights Act includes an aspect of compelled speech in using one's artistic talents to propagate a message one disagrees with. It's a legitimately complicated question of where one person's rights end and another person's rights begin (although, to be clear, so was the original Civil Rights Act when it clarified that the right to refuse service was not universal). > What if I don't want to work with Facebook because I think they're evil? Is that discrimination against evil corporations? The Civil Rights Act doesn't provide being an evil corporation as a protected class. So the answer would be "yes, refusing to work with evil corporations is legal discrimination."