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> This industry started with a sense of humor and fun. It did, then what the hell happened? :( Like every other industry, the fun is all gone, and the bean-co

> This industry started with a sense of humor and fun. It did, then what the hell happened? :( Like every other industry, the fun is all gone, and the bean-counters and moronic managers have taken control.

stavros 5y ago
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- Jaruzel 5y ago
  1. The great and infamous Stavros has replied to me ! 2. Why do I need your image hosting program?
  - stavros 5y ago
    1. Hahaha what 2. You don't need it, but you want it
  - the-dude 5y ago
    The fun is somewhere within you. Search and you will find.
    - Vinnl 5y ago
      Specifically, by clicking the link, reading it, then clicking around some more.
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Jaruzel 5y ago
Hmm, I'm guessing the bean-counters and moronic managers didn't like me calling them out?
- LadyCailin 5y ago
  Or perhaps there is more nuance to the problem, and you painting with such a broad brush is overly reductive?
PretzelPirate 5y ago
The auditors started telling me that I couldn’t build Easter eggs into my systems if I wanted to pass and meet compliance requirements.
- dzqhz 5y ago
  In the case of Microsoft, putting an easter egg in code is grounds for immediate termination.
croniev 5y ago
The argument that everything got more complex and bugs are harder to find now, so fun is avoided, does seem convincing, but I believe it does not account for everything. For a philosophical take: the kind of positive effects that easter eggs have, such as joy at work, team cohesion, flimflam - they are not physically measurable. They are immaterial. And the managers who are interested in making a profitable product will be focused on material measures, since at the end of the day that is what seems to be whats important on the market. To put it briefly, I believe that the materialistic world-view inspired by natural sciences and inscribed into our economies is not able to deal with more abstract benefits such as fun.
dhosek 5y ago
But also black-hat hackers, spammers and all sorts of other nefarious sorts making a lot of the openness that was possible in the 80s and early 90s much less practical.

stavros 5y ago

Sounds like you need https://imgz.org https://imgz.org

Jaruzel 5y ago
1. The great and infamous Stavros has replied to me ! 2. Why do I need your image hosting program?
- stavros 5y ago
  1. Hahaha what 2. You don't need it, but you want it
- the-dude 5y ago
  The fun is somewhere within you. Search and you will find.
  - Vinnl 5y ago
    Specifically, by clicking the link, reading it, then clicking around some more.

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Jaruzel 5y ago

Hmm, I'm guessing the bean-counters and moronic managers didn't like me calling them out?

LadyCailin 5y ago
Or perhaps there is more nuance to the problem, and you painting with such a broad brush is overly reductive?

PretzelPirate 5y ago

The auditors started telling me that I couldn’t build Easter eggs into my systems if I wanted to pass and meet compliance requirements.

dzqhz 5y ago
In the case of Microsoft, putting an easter egg in code is grounds for immediate termination.

croniev 5y ago

The argument that everything got more complex and bugs are harder to find now, so fun is avoided, does seem convincing, but I believe it does not account for everything. For a philosophical take: the kind of positive effects that easter eggs have, such as joy at work, team cohesion, flimflam - they are not physically measurable. They are immaterial. And the managers who are interested in making a profitable product will be focused on material measures, since at the end of the day that is what seems to be whats important on the market. To put it briefly, I believe that the materialistic world-view inspired by natural sciences and inscribed into our economies is not able to deal with more abstract benefits such as fun.

dhosek 5y ago

But also black-hat hackers, spammers and all sorts of other nefarious sorts making a lot of the openness that was possible in the 80s and early 90s much less practical.